Re: Older Resources pages

Hi, Shadi,

Thanks a lot - that was very quick, indeed!  There is *a lot of interesting
information in the presentation *and having cut out the broken links etc., *it
is really good*.

In answer to your question on whether to continue to update these slides, I
feel that given the *overall work load *with the re-design, I don't think
we have time now to update it but I would certainly put it on the "Next to
do" in the context of this topic.  It would be good to hear what others
feel in this respect.

With this well-improved and interesting resource, I have a further set of
questions and thoughts, as given below:

   - How do we link to it?  Can we link to it *without *the (historical)
   overview page entitled "Instructions for the Web Accessibility Older Users
   Presentation"?
   - The title is "Web Accessibility for Older Users Presentation" which
   doesn't say too much about the content.  Can we change the title without
   "offending" any parties and link it from the main overview page?
   - Do we keep the "Instructions" overview page linked up or do we keep it
   in available but in an archive (historical) approach (similar to WAI-AGE
   information)?

Considering the questions above, and in order* to save time*, I would like
to *propose to our Review Team *that:

(a) We keep the presentations page, keep the updated version of Shadi, keep
the historical version of WAI-AGE (as linked up in Shadi's updated
version);;
(b) In order to make the information "more reachable" (as in the current
link path, it is two levels deep and the title does not necessarily provide
an insight into the content), we create a page called "*Ageing and changing
abilities*" which would contain the updated statistical information (see
attached Word file).  This page would be linked up under the description of
declining age-related problems which is currently found under "Overlapping
needs..." (link:
https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Web_and_Older_Users#Overlapping_Needs:_Older_Users_and_Disabled_Users
)
or, alternatively, we combine the information under "Overlapping needs" and
the attached Word file.

*Review Team:  *For your consideration and comments on the above proposal
points (a) and (b).


Best,

Vicki

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org> wrote:

> [added Norah who I believe was present on the previous call]
>
> Hi Vicki, all,
>
> Please find attached a revised version of the Older People slides, with
> the changes I had described during the call (removed demographics, most
> external links, and descriptions of the WAI-AGE Project).
>
> The idea is to archive the current 2010 version of the slides, then this
> new 2017 version refers to it as background. I think the content that is
> now in the 2017 version is quite stable and valid today.
>
> I hope the HTML attachment is not too clunky and you can all read it. The
> specific question now is: is this approach worthwhile to continue, or do
> people feel we should stop work on these slides.
>
> Best,
>   Shadi
>
>
> On 01/12/2017 14:20, Bakken, Brent wrote:
>
>> Thanks for sending this recap Vicki. Adding public-eo-archive for records.
>>
>> *__*
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 6:38 AM, Victoria Menezes Miller <
>> menezesmiller@gmail.com <mailto:menezesmiller@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Dear Charlotte, Brent, Norah, Robert, Shadi, Andrew, and [Shawn],
>>
>>     We shall have a discussion on the Older Resources pages this
>> afternoon.
>>
>>     In this respect, some additional minor changes have been done to the
>>     following resources, as follows:
>>
>>     *Main "overview" page:*
>>     https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Web_and_Older_Users#Understan
>> ding_Older_Web_Users
>>     <https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Web_and_Older_Users#Understa
>> nding_Older_Web_Users>
>>
>>       * I shifted a sentence found after the bulleted list (2nd level
>>         heading "Overlapping needs...") back to end of the first
>>         paragraph.  The shifted sentence reads  "By applying
>>         international guidelines...etc." _Rationale for the shift in
>>         position_:  after looking at the page with some "gap" in
>>         between, it seemed more logical to place the sentence there.
>>       * In the bulleted list where the Literature Review and WAI-AGE is
>>         mentioned, I added that WAI-AGE ended on 30 September 2010
>>       * Decision for this afternoon:  concerning WAI-AGE.  At the end of
>>         the page, there is a paragraph on WAI-AGE 2010.  Should this be
>>         removed entirely and a link placed to the WAI-AGE page at the
>>         bullet point where the Literature Review is mentioned or do you
>>         want to keep the paragraph on WAI-AGE?
>>       * Last call for any further changes/suggestions to this resource.
>>
>>     *Literature Review page:*
>>     https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/New_Overview_page#Introduction
>>     <https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/New_Overview_page#Introduction>
>>     The following minor changes were made:
>>
>>       * changes of verb to past tense where applicable as regards WAI-AGE
>>       * added that the project WAI-AGE ended on 30 September 2010
>>       * Last call for any further changes to this resource
>>
>>     *Presentation page:*
>>     https://www.w3.org/WAI/presentations/ageing/
>>     <https://www.w3.org/WAI/presentations/ageing/>*
>>     *
>>
>>       * Decision for this afternoon:  Do we keep the presentation page
>>         with mention that it will be updated in due course or do we
>>         remove it?
>>
>>     Wiki page with history of changes on Older Users Resources:
>>     https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Older_Users_Resources
>>     <https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Older_Users_Resources>
>>
>>     Looking forward to discussing,
>>
>>     Best,
>>
>>     Vicki
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Accessibility Strategy and Technology Specialist
> Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
>