Re: revised stories of web users on github

Great, that sounds like a good approach.


Norah Sinclair
Instructional Technology and User Support Specialist

AMAC Accessibility Solutions and Research Center
Georgia Institute of Technology | College of Design
512 Means Street | Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30318

phone 404.894.7432
www.amacusg.org<http://www.amacusg.org/>


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From: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 1:33 AM
To: Sinclair, Norah M; Sharron Rush
Cc: Sylvie Duchateau; public-eo-archive@w3.org; Bakken, Brent; shawn@w3.org
Subject: Re: revised stories of web users on github

Hi Norah,

I agree that putting this content in the shiny new design would help
with the reviews. At the very least, I think you should do a separate
issue for every story, otherwise the discussion thread will be very
difficult to follow. I think a survey with links to each page and to
create new issues (like we just have for the Media Tutorial) could be
worthwhile when you have all the stories in place. I will try to send
feedback on the latest stories as soon as I can.

Best,
   Shadi


On 14/09/2017 22:46, Sinclair, Norah M wrote:
> (Sorry for so many emails).
>
>
> I have now created a github issue with revised versions of 5 of the 8 stories of web users for feedback from reviewers:
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> https://github.com/w3c/wai-people-use-web/issues/51
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> Perhaps the review team can use the github issue and after their feedback is integrated and ready for EOWG review, we can add the revised content to the new wrapper as Sharron suggested.
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> I sent 2 more stories to Shadi and Sylvie for review and have one more to revise.
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> Thank you.
>
>
> Norah Sinclair
> Instructional Technology and User Support Specialist
>
> AMAC Accessibility Solutions and Research Center
> Georgia Institute of Technology | College of Design
> 512 Means Street | Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30318
>
> phone 404.894.7432
> www.amacusg.org<http://www.amacusg.org/>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Sharron Rush <srush@knowbility.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 4:04 PM
> To: Sinclair, Norah M
> Cc: Shadi Abou-Zahra; Sylvie Duchateau; public-eo-archive@w3.org; Bakken, Brent; shawn@w3.org
> Subject: Re: How People with Disabilities use the Web revised web stories draft versions
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> Yes, Eric or Shawn.
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> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Sinclair, Norah M <norah.sinclair@amac.gatech.edu<mailto:norah.sinclair@amac.gatech.edu>> wrote:
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> Thanks Sharron,
>
>
> Would Eric be the one to put the new content into the new wrapper?
>
>
> Norah Sinclair
> Instructional Technology and User Support Specialist
>
> AMAC Accessibility Solutions and Research Center
> Georgia Institute of Technology | College of Design
> 512 Means Street | Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30318<https://maps.google.com/?q=512+Means+Street+%7C+Suite+250+%7C+Atlanta,+GA+30318&entry=gmail&source=g>
>
> phone 404.894.7432<tel:(404)%20894-7432>
> www.amacusg.org<http://www.amacusg.org/>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Sharron Rush <srush@knowbility.org<mailto:srush@knowbility.org>>
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 3:33 PM
> To: Sinclair, Norah M
> Cc: Shadi Abou-Zahra; Sylvie Duchateau; public-eo-archive@w3.org<mailto:public-eo-archive@w3.org>; Bakken, Brent; shawn@w3.org<mailto:shawn@w3.org>
>
> Subject: Re: How People with Disabilities use the Web revised web stories draft versions
>
> Dear Nora,
>
> We put the content of the Business Case into the new wrapper within GitHub. It is a helpful way to see the new content in place, in context. Maybe you can do the same?
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> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Sinclair, Norah M <norah.sinclair@amac.gatech.edu<mailto:norah.sinclair@amac.gatech.edu>> wrote:
>
> Shadi and Sylvie,
>
>
> Here are two more draft web story revisions for your feedback: Ms. Kaseem - Kaseem (name may need to be changed if you have a suggestion. Kaseem may be associated as a male name and the story uses the pronoun she) and Mr. Sands - Stephen. There is one more story to go, which I hope to complete today or tomorrow.
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> I would like to have the review team begin reviewing the stories that you and Sylvie have already seen. What would be the best way to share the before and after versions of the stories, on a wiki or creating github issues for each story, or another way?
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>
> Thank you,
>
> Norah
>
>
> Norah Sinclair
> Instructional Technology and User Support Specialist
>
> AMAC Accessibility Solutions and Research Center
> Georgia Institute of Technology | College of Design
> 512 Means Street | Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30318<https://maps.google.com/?q=512+Means+Street+%7C+Suite+250+%7C+Atlanta,+GA+30318&entry=gmail&source=g>
>
> phone 404.894.7432<tel:(404)%20894-7432>
> www.amacusg.org<http://www.amacusg.org/>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org<mailto:shadi@w3.org>>
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 9:41 AM
> To: Sinclair, Norah M; Sylvie Duchateau
> Cc: public-eo-archive@w3.org<mailto:public-eo-archive@w3.org>; Bakken, Brent; Sharron Rush; shawn@w3.org<mailto:shawn@w3.org>
>
> Subject: Re: How People with Disabilities use the Web revised web stories draft versions
>
> Hi Norah,
>
> Excellent edits! I made a few minor tweaks using track changes for your
> consideration - these are all for editors' discretion.
>
> Best,
>     Shadi
>
>
> On 07/09/2017 22:07, Sinclair, Norah M wrote:
>> Shadi and Sylvie,
>>
>>
>> Here are two more draft revisions of web stories attached for your feedback, Ms. Olsen (Katie) and Mr. Yunus (Yun) with the goal to make the content simple and brief and to use active voice and actionable statements. Katie's story may need to be compressed a bit more.
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>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Norah
>>
>>
>> Norah Sinclair
>> Instructional Technology and User Support Specialist
>>
>> AMAC Accessibility Solutions and Research Center
>> Georgia Institute of Technology | College of Design
>> 512 Means Street | Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30318<https://maps.google.com/?q=512+Means+Street+%7C+Suite+250+%7C+Atlanta,+GA+30318&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> phone 404.894.7432<tel:(404)%20894-7432>
>> www.amacusg.org<http://www.amacusg.org><http://www.amacusg.org/>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Sinclair, Norah M
>> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 4:03 PM
>> To: Shadi Abou-Zahra; Sylvie Duchateau
>> Cc: public-eo-archive@w3.org<mailto:public-eo-archive@w3.org>
>> Subject: Re: How People with Disabilities use the Web revised web stories draft versions
>>
>>
>> Shadi,
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback. I'll make the changes and send revisions.
>>
>>
>> Norah
>>
>>
>> Norah Sinclair
>> Instructional Technology and User Support Specialist
>>
>> AMAC Accessibility Solutions and Research Center
>> Georgia Institute of Technology | College of Design
>> 512 Means Street | Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30318<https://maps.google.com/?q=512+Means+Street+%7C+Suite+250+%7C+Atlanta,+GA+30318&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> phone 404.894.7432<tel:(404)%20894-7432>
>> www.amacusg.org<http://www.amacusg.org><http://www.amacusg.org/>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org<mailto:shadi@w3.org>>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 10:15 AM
>> To: Sinclair, Norah M; Sylvie Duchateau
>> Cc: public-eo-archive@w3.org<mailto:public-eo-archive@w3.org>
>> Subject: Re: How People with Disabilities use the Web revised web stories draft versions
>>
>> Hi Norah,
>>
>> Looks excellent!
>>
>> I've made some comments using track changes for your consideration.
>>
>> Best,
>>      Shadi
>>
>>
>> On 30/08/2017 19:40, Sinclair, Norah M wrote:
>>> Shadi and Sylvie,
>>>
>>>
>>> Here are two more draft revisions of web stories attached. Mr. Jones (Jonah) and Ms. Martinez (Martine). The goal is to make the content simple and brief and to use active voice and actionable statements.
>>>
>>>
>>> The next several stories do not seem to need quite as much revision. I will send additional stories later today. Please provide whatever feedback you may have. After your feedback, the goal will be to provide updated drafts to the review team beginning next week.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Norah
>>>
>>>
>>> Norah Sinclair
>>> Instructional Technology and User Support Specialist
>>>
>>> AMAC Accessibility Solutions and Research Center
>>> Georgia Institute of Technology | College of Design
>>> 512 Means Street | Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30318<https://maps.google.com/?q=512+Means+Street+%7C+Suite+250+%7C+Atlanta,+GA+30318&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>> phone 404.894.7432<tel:(404)%20894-7432>
>>> www.amacusg.org<http://www.amacusg.org><http://www.amacusg.org/>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org<mailto:shadi@w3.org>>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 4:06 PM
>>> To: Sinclair, Norah M; Sylvie Duchateau; Bakken, Brent; Sharron Rush; shawn@w3.org<mailto:shawn@w3.org>
>>> Subject: Re: How People with Disabilities use the Web planned revisions and content questions
>>>
>>> Hi Norah,
>>>
>>> I agree that the other sections are more concise and have an active
>>> tone. I recall Sharron still had some concerns, especially with the
>>> principles page. I think it may be the current one-page presentation
>>> that is creating this perceived wall of text, so maybe your idea of
>>> adding graphics could help. I also don't know how the new WAI design
>>> addresses these types of pages in terms of information architecture.
>>>
>>> As to contacting CoGa, they already have been contacted maybe over a
>>> year ago meanwhile. While terminology and technology has moved most
>>> significantly in this area, I think also the other sections have aged
>>> and should probably be looked over by relevant experts. Not sure how
>>> this should be best approached, though. Maybe the chairs have ideas.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>       Shadi
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22/08/2017 20:58, Sinclair, Norah M wrote:
>>>> Hello Shadi, Sylvie, Brent, Sharron, and Shawn,
>>>>
>>>> The resource, “How People with Disabilities Use the Web,” consists of several in-depth pages, including Stories of Web Users, Diversity of Web Users, Diversity in Web Use and Accessibility Principles. The co-editors are seeking to:
>>>> • Simplify & Tersify — Make content simple and brief. Cut words. Cut Sentences.
>>>> • Bullets & Graphics — Break up passages into bullets when appropriate. Suggest graphics.
>>>> • Front-loaded Action — Use active voice, and action statements.
>>>>
>>>> We have determined this process is needed for Stories of Web Users and we’ve agreed upon a draft format for the first story, which basically reduces the word count in half while conveying the important content from the original story. The other stories are currently being revised using the same type of approach.
>>>>
>>>> To me, the other resources, Diversity of Web Users, Diversity in Web Use and Accessibility Principles may not be in need of the same type of revision (goal of reducing content by 50% or so).  The content of these resources (Diversity of Web Users, Diversity in Web Use and Accessibility Principles) is broken up into bullets, and is written using active, action statements. The main revision could be adding graphics or linking to the web perspective videos. What are the thoughts of the co-editors and EO chair review team on this? Would this be a good question to ask the reviewers for their feedback?
>>>>
>>>> Also, should the Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force (Cognitive A11Y TF) be consulted for suggested revisions to section: Examples of cognitive, learning, and neurological disabilities?
>>>>
>>>> https://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/people-use-web/diversity
>>>>
>>>> Thanks very much,
>>>> Norah
>>>>
>>>> Norah Sinclair
>>>> Instructional Technology and User Support Specialist
>>>>
>>>> AMAC Accessibility Solutions and Research Center
>>>> Georgia Institute of Technology | College of Design
>>>> 512 Means Street | Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30318<https://maps.google.com/?q=512+Means+Street+%7C+Suite+250+%7C+Atlanta,+GA+30318&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>
>>>> phone 404.894.7432<tel:(404)%20894-7432>
>>>> www.amacusg.org<http://www.amacusg.org><http://www.amacusg.org/>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/
>>> Accessibility Strategy and Technology Specialist
>>> Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
>>> World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
>>>
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>> Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/
>> Accessibility Strategy and Technology Specialist
>> Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
>> World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
>>
>
> --
> Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/
> Accessibility Strategy and Technology Specialist
> Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)
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> Sharron Rush | Executive Director | Knowbility.org | @knowbility
> Equal access to technology for people with disabilities
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> --
> Sharron Rush | Executive Director | Knowbility.org | @knowbility
> Equal access to technology for people with disabilities
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Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/
Accessibility Strategy and Technology Specialist
Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)