- From: Sylvie Duchateau <contact@sylvie-duchateau.fr>
- Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2017 08:42:01 +0000
- To: Sharron Rush <srush@knowbility.org>, "Sinclair, Norah M" <norah.sinclair@amac.gatech.edu>
- Cc: Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org>, "shawn@w3.org" <shawn@w3.org>, "Bakken, Brent" <brent.bakken@pearson.com>, "public-eo-archive@w3.org" <public-eo-archive@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <f88e73aa-bb96-b551-3c7d-857365f1e495@sylvie-duchateau.fr>
Hello all, I also don't remember why so many sories were created. The first doc had less stories and some were added to illustrate more disabilities and more situations. I also don't know why it was chosen to use Mr X or Y instead of the first name of the user. I don't know how I can help, but I can do something till tomorrow, then I will be on holidays until August 28 and not able to reply, read or edit anything. Best Sylvie Le 02/08/2017 à 22:17, Sharron Rush a écrit : > This is a great approach Norah, just what we were hoping people would > be inspired to do! Thanks so much, I look forward to your story > revision. I was not part of the decision to use the form titles and > surnames so can't really comment on what was the thinking there. Will > let Shadi be the guide on that question. > > Thanks very much for your efforts - most appreciated! > > Best, > Sharron > > > > On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Sinclair, Norah M > <norah.sinclair@amac.gatech.edu > <mailto:norah.sinclair@amac.gatech.edu>> wrote: > > Thanks very much Shadi and Sharron. > > > From the resources provided, it looks as though this should be our > editing approach: > > > For most documents: > > * *Simplify & Tersify* — Make content simple and brief. Cut > words. Cut Sentences. > * *Bullets & Graphics* — Break up passages into bullets when > appropriate. Suggest graphics. > * *Front-loaded Action* — Use active voice, and action statements. > > Also from Sharron's information, we should attempt to cut the > verbiage of the resource in half. I'll attempt to revise one of > the stories of web users with this approach and goal in mind and > will share with Shadi and Sylvie for feedback. Also, has there > been prior discussion regarding the number of stories? Are there > too many stories? Would the use of first names be friendlier? > > > Regards, > > Norah > > > *Norah Sinclair * > Instructional Technology and User Support Specialist > ** > AMAC Accessibility Solutions and Research Center > Georgia Institute of Technology | College of Design > 512 Means Street | Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30318 > > phone 404.894.7432 <tel:%28404%29%20894-7432> > www.amacusg.org <http://www.amacusg.org/> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Sharron Rush <srush@knowbility.org > <mailto:srush@knowbility.org>> > *Sent:* Friday, July 28, 2017 10:49 AM > *To:* Shadi Abou-Zahra > *Cc:* Sinclair, Norah M; contact@sylvie-duchateau.fr > <mailto:contact@sylvie-duchateau.fr>; shawn@w3.org > <mailto:shawn@w3.org>; Bakken, Brent; public-eo-archive@w3.org > <mailto:public-eo-archive@w3.org> > *Subject:* Re: How People with Disabilities Use the Web resource > editing > Hey Norah, > > Hi Norah and Shadi, > > Tanks for collaborating so closely on this, much appreciated! > > It may also be useful to know that at today's meeting, we > confirmed and agreed that for most resources, our goal will be to > cut the verbiage by about half. Of course, that is not a hard and > fast rule but a general goal to address the bloat that is > currently displayed on WAI and that contributes to how hard it is > to find the information we need. > > Please look at > https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/EOWG_Participation_Info#Editors > <https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/EOWG_Participation_Info#Editors>: > and https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Style#Appendix:_Edit_Examples > <https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Style#Appendix:_Edit_Examples> for > our developing approach to this aspect of the editing process. > > Thanks so much for your help! > > Best, > Sharron > > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Shadi Abou-Zahra <shadi@w3.org > <mailto:shadi@w3.org>> wrote: > > [resending with public archive public-eo-archive@w3.org > <mailto:public-eo-archive@w3.org> in copy] > > Hi Norah, > > Thanks so much for taking this initiative! > > I look forward to working with you on this. I signed up > because I have been the primary editor for this resource for > the past several years, and want to help with the transition > to the new primary editor(s). > > This document goes way back [1, 2]. I took over editing in > 2009, where we revised it into a multi-page resource [3, 4]. > Last year we moved it to GitHub [5, 6], and made a quick > update to better address mobile. > > [1] https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/ > <https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/> > [2] > https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/changelog.html > <https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/PWD-Use-Web/changelog.html> > [3] https://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/people-use-web/ > <https://www.w3.org/WAI/intro/people-use-web/> > [4] https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/changelogs/cl-PWD-Use-Web.html > <https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/changelogs/cl-PWD-Use-Web.html> > [5] https://w3c.github.io/wai-people-use-web/Overview.html > <https://w3c.github.io/wai-people-use-web/Overview.html> > [6] https://github.com/w3c/wai-people-use-web > <https://github.com/w3c/wai-people-use-web> > > There are only a few open issues in GitHub [6] which were left > to this next iteration. Some of these are minor edits but > others relate to the overall information and interaction > design, and cross-linking between them. We agreed to address > these together with the WAI site redesign. I think there were > some ideas from the site redesign team for a complete > refactoring of this resource, but I'm not up-to-date on these. > I think it may be worthwhile to get on a call with them, if > these suggestions are still current. I'm curious how they > envision the new architecture. > > Also, there is a GitHub issue relating to how cognitive and > learning disabilities are addressed in this resource. On the > one hand, this has been an on-going issue throughout the > lifetime of this resource -- we want to introduce the > different types of disabilities to people who are new to the > topic, so inadvertently end up creating (rather medical) > categories which is kind of contrary to the universal design > approach that we are suggesting elsewhere in the resource. I > think we need to revisit the terminology and language used to > describe all disabilities (not only cognitive and learning > disabilities) because these changed over time. Maybe we also > find an alternative approach altogether. > > I hope this is useful background on where we are and what I > think the key issues are, but don't hesitate if you have more > questions. I would be happy to get on the phone with you for > further discussion too. > > Best, > Shadi > > > On 26/07/2017 20:04, Sinclair, Norah M wrote: > > Hi Shadi and Sylvie, > > > I'm reaching out to begin discussing the editing approach > and process for the resource we will be co-editing, "How > People with Disabilities Use the Web". > > > Shadi, I know you have extensive experience editing this > particular resource. Do you have a good idea of the type > of restructuring that is needed? Do you have previous > requirements documents or notes from recent discussions on > changes to be made? In general, what are your thoughts on > the best approach to this resource? > > > Thanks very much, > > Norah > > > Norah Sinclair > Instructional Technology and User Support Specialist > > AMAC Accessibility Solutions and Research Center > Georgia Institute of Technology | College of Design > 512 Means Street | Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30318 > > phone 404.894.7432 <tel:404.894.7432> > www.amacusg.org > <http://www.amacusg.org><http://www.amacusg.org/ > <http://www.amacusg.org/>> > > > -- > Shadi Abou-Zahra - http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/ > <http://www.w3.org/People/shadi/> > Accessibility Strategy and Technology Specialist > Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) > > > > > -- > Sharron Rush | Executive Director | Knowbility.org | @knowbility > /Equal access to technology for people with disabilities/ > > > > > -- > Sharron Rush | Executive Director | Knowbility.org | @knowbility > /Equal access to technology for people with disabilities/
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