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Re: Publishing Open Government Data

From: John Erickson <olyerickson@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 21:00:43 -0400
Message-ID: <CAC1Gg8Qz4ALmUgoURmjENmAG2LtS4vtrdkZGBYBjJ917UDMRXA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Daniel Bennett <daniel@citizencontact.com>
Cc: Gannon Dick <gannon_dick@yahoo.com>, Bernadette Hyland <bhyland@3roundstones.com>, "W3C eGov Interest Group (All)" <public-egov-ig@w3.org>
To Daniel's offer of "I would gladly help with the revision of the
document within the eGov IG." I say, "well volunteered..." (assuming
such work is within charter)

See: http://www.w3.org/egov/IG/participation "Contributing to the eGov IG" ;)

John

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Daniel Bennett
<daniel@citizencontact.com> wrote:
> It would be great to have the note redone by the eGov IG which has a
> different scope and view from GLD WG. For example, this document was
> supposed to be aimed at non-technical policy people. If the Linked Data want
> to do their own best practices document, they should do their own Linked
> Data document. I  would recommend, that either the eGov IG take up a new
> version or just abandon it.
>
> Since the original document was drafted, the HTML5 revolution has made the
> goals of the Publishing Open Government Data even easier. Having human
> presentable documents that are also machine processable is possible even
> without linked data specific technologies. Whether PDF (pdfa) with attached
> XML or HTML5 with Microdata or XML with XSLT into HTML, there are several
> technologies that would meet the policy goals of transparency and greater
> access to citizens and the eGov IG is best scoped if not ready to create
> such a document.
>
> I would gladly help with the revision of the document within the eGov IG.
>
> Yours,
> Daniel
>
> Daniel Bennett
> daniel@citizencontact.com
>
>
>
> On 6/17/2013 4:34 PM, Gannon Dick wrote:
>
> Nice work ... but ... (you knew that was coming, right?)
>
> I do think that the target audience should be broadened to include a good
> word for professionalism in the handling of "Open Data",
> in general. Agile programming is all well and good, but making a decision to
> offer selected parts of a government data set means you are the gatekeeper
> and the ethics and integrity issues are on you.  It often happens that
> governments' idea of coverage does not fit well in a small screen, and the
> largest screens are pretty crowded too.  This is a programming challenge,
> but also a problem with the perceptions of full coverage you leave with
> users.
>
> I'm looking at you, "Big Data".
>
> Maybe I'm just sore it's taken me a week and a half to get a clean load of
> 70,000 lines of "Experts" from the GSA. There were thousands of syntax
> variations (quotes, line feeds, tabs, control characters on and on).  It has
> become apparent that this is not the GSA's fault, they know who is on the
> Committees, and it's not the Experts fault, they know how to write their
> names and where they work (kinda goes along with "Expert").  Sad to say that
> this is a Consultant Generated Interoperability problem all the way.  Nice
> job guys, Open Data doesn't need you.
>
> --Gannon
>
> [1] "The document is targeted at developers, government information
> management staff, website administrators"
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bernadette Hyland <bhyland@3round
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bernadette Hyland <bhyland@3roundstones.com>
> To: Angus MacWilliam <angusmacwilliam@gmail.com>
> Cc: John Erickson <olyerickson@gmail.com>; W3C eGov Interest Group (All)
> <public-egov-ig@w3.org>; W3C public GLD WG WG <public-gld-wg@w3.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 10:59 AM
> Subject: Re: Publishing Open Government Data
>
> Hi Angus,
> Thanks John for the pointer to the group's main wiki page.
>
> The URL of the most recent Best Practices document for Linked Data is
> here.[1]  The status of the document is that it is being published as a W3C
> Working Group Note.  It has gone through a preliminary level of peer review
> by the Government Linked Data Working Group members.
>
> The editors are fleshing out the Note with 10-steps to publishing government
> data for better discovery, access and re-use AND a friendlier, practical
> advice on URI Design Principles and policy for persistent identifiers.  We
> expect the Best Practices Note to be completed this summer as there is
> considerable interest by people doing this type of work internationally.
>
> If there is any specific guidance you'd like to see, we'll willing to
> consider it to ensure that the document is both relevant & timely to people
> involved in both the publication & consumption of high quality open
> government data published as LOD.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bernadette Hyland, co-chair
> W3C Government Linked Data Working Group
> Charter: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/
>
> [1] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/bp/index.html
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2013, at 9:17 AM, John Erickson <olyerickson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Angus, you could start with the list of deliverables from the W3C
> Government Linked Data (GLD) WG, which was an outgrowth of that
> earlier W3C eGov IG. See http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Main_Page
>
> Pay particular attention to the "Best Practices" document and the set
> of vocabulary recommendations we've been working on.
>
> John
>
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Angus MacWilliam
> <angusmacwilliam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello
>
>
>
> Can you please confirm whether 'Publishing Open Government Data (W3C Working
> Draft 8 September 2009)' has been superseded by another paper? It would also
> be good to know if there are other W3C papers on this subject?
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Angus MacWilliam
>
>
>
>
> --
> John S. Erickson, Ph.D.
> Director, Web Science Operations
> Tetherless World Constellation (RPI)
> <http://tw.rpi.edu> <olyerickson@gmail.com>
> Twitter & Skype: olyerickson
>
>
>
>
>



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Director, Web Science Operations
Tetherless World Constellation (RPI)
<http://tw.rpi.edu> <olyerickson@gmail.com>
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