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Re: Knight News Challenge on open government

From: Gannon Dick <gannon_dick@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:12:37 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <1359666757.99398.YahooMailNeo@web122903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
To: Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa@gmail.com>, Ed Summers <ehs@pobox.com>
Cc: public-egov-ig <public-egov-ig@w3.org>
Fouad,

Yes, your census statistics would be a good starting point.  I wish you well.

"Federalized" Data Sets are not quite the same thing as a Federal Political System. Locations, Places, etc. are assumed to be of uniform density and this does not scale up nor does it scale down.  Population Density, the local Land Survey system, and the Naming Authority all play a role and, in the US, these are semi-autonomous entities. The Knight News Challenge and the Civic Hacks simply show that if data is to be stored in the Cloud then Clouds can't be differently informed nor can they take short cuts which differently inform users. So while there are many "sources" in this example, they can all be traced back to statistical point densities.

http://www.rustprivacy.org/2013/egov/civic_hack/

Atlanta is a major city.  Since I don't live there, it cannot possibly be the "centre" of anything notable :-)  The 2,250 of us in Reno, TX all feel the same way about Atlanta and, importantly, would not object if the same statistics were published about us.

On the left are the locators from the US Library of Congress and on the right are access keys and links (I believe) a Cloud, any Cloud, needs to have.  The users should not "need to have" the FIPS (Federal Information Processing Standard) codes - the Cloud is free to provide a functional equivalent, but not free to do away with the function.

--Gannon






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 From: Fouad Bajwa <fouadbajwa@gmail.com>
To: Ed Summers <ehs@pobox.com> 
Cc: public-egov-ig <public-egov-ig@w3.org> 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: Knight News Challenge on open government
 

Maybe there can be a partnership where a US based partner can develop a partnership with us in Pakistan for research, prototyping and implementation. Our census statistics can be a very good starting point. 
Fouad Bajwa
On Jan 31, 2013 1:05 AM, "Ed Summers" <ehs@pobox.com> wrote:

I'm not sure if this got mentioned already, but I thought it might be
>worth sharing in case you hadn't seen it already:
>
>  News Challenge on open gov launches Feb. 12
>  http://www.knightfoundation.org/blogs/knightblog/2013/1/30/news-challenge-open-gov-launches-feb-12/
>
>Probably (but maybe not) only of direct interest to folks in the US.
>But perhaps a good model for similar efforts elsewhere in the world --
>depending on how it goes I suppose.
>
>//Ed
>
>
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