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Re: W3C eGov Meeting (Los Angeles time)

From: Gannon Dick <gannon_dick@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 14:00:02 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <1350075602.176.YahooMailNeo@web112617.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
To: Brand Niemann <bniemann@cox.net>, "'Holm, Jeanne M \(1760\)'" <jeanne.m.holm@jpl.nasa.gov>, "'eGov IG \(Public\)'" <public-egov-ig@w3.org>
Cc: "'Aisenberg, Michael A.'" <maisenberg@mitre.org>, "'Strawn, George'" <Strawn@nitrd.gov>, "'Geraghty, John P.'" <jgeraghty@mitre.org>, "'Irven, Candy'" <cirven@egov.com>, "jeffkaplan88@gmail.com" <jeffkaplan88@gmail.com>, 'Dave McAllister' <dmcallis@adobe.com>, 'Bobbi Martin' <Bobbi.Martin@tn.gov>, 'Malcolm Crompton' <mcrompton@iispartners.com>, 'Sylvia Webb' <sylvia.webb@vision4standards.com>, "'Khoshafian, Setrag'" <Setrag.Khoshafian@pega.com>, "'Lee, Deirdre'" <Deirdre.Lee@deri.org>, 'Eriksen Gorm Haug' <Gorm-Haug.Eriksen@dss.dep.no>, 'Jared Gulian' <Jared.Gulian@dia.govt.nz>, 'Martin Kaltenböck' <m.kaltenboeck@semantic-web.at>
Good idea, Brand.

I'm a little skeptical of Big Data's motives, and the skepticism dates back centuries.  One wonders about back-doors.  The "for internal use only" Economic Models people use have two specific problems around "resources": 1) It takes a village ... to support an Arctic Station.  Santa Claus cannot plant a vegetable garden to tide him over tough times. 2) A phase change at the equator makes no sense.  It makes "work time" and "play time" interchangeable and undifferentiable.  I know, it's just a coordinate system and just math, but the perception is that the 18 hours of daylight (and sometimes even only light rain) found in mid-summer London is available in the Tropics.  This distorts the perception of "work ethic" if you have a northern corporate headquarters.

While I dispair of making the pre-election silly season in Washington less so, I posted the latest spreadsheet incarnation (phase4.odg) of a 16 point Fourier Transform, linear, trigonometry only - I don't know what logs mean for policy - and it fixes the statistical sampling problem mentioned in 2).  I'll send it along to NOAA since they can make a bundle inter-government.  I'd send it to NASA but they are not interested in 100 year old tech, and I think they might hate Santa Claus.



 From: Brand Niemann <bniemann@cox.net>
To: "'Holm, Jeanne M (1760)'" <jeanne.m.holm@jpl.nasa.gov>; 'eGov IG (Public)' <public-egov-ig@w3.org> 
Cc: "'Aisenberg, Michael A.'" <maisenberg@mitre.org>; "'Strawn, George'" <Strawn@nitrd.gov>; "'Geraghty, John P.'" <jgeraghty@mitre.org>; "'Irven, Candy'" <cirven@egov.com>; jeffkaplan88@gmail.com; 'Dave McAllister' <dmcallis@adobe.com>; 'Bobbi Martin' <Bobbi.Martin@tn.gov>; 'Malcolm Crompton' <mcrompton@iispartners.com>; 'Sylvia Webb' <sylvia.webb@vision4standards.com>; "'Khoshafian, Setrag'" <Setrag.Khoshafian@pega.com>; "'Lee, Deirdre'" <Deirdre.Lee@deri.org>; 'Eriksen Gorm Haug' <Gorm-Haug.Eriksen@dss.dep.no>; 'Jared Gulian' <Jared.Gulian@dia.govt.nz>; 'Martin Kaltenböck' <m.kaltenboeck@semantic-web.at> 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:30 PM
Subject: RE: W3C eGov Meeting (Los Angeles time)

RE: W3C eGov Meeting (Los Angeles time) 
I also think we should discuss Big Data:http://www.fiercebigdata.com/story/how-big-data-changing-world-how-it-isnt/2012-10-11
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From:Holm, Jeanne M (1760) [mailto:jeanne.m.holm@jpl.nasa.gov]
Sent:Friday, October 12, 2012 12:52 PM
To:eGov IG (Public)
Cc:Aisenberg, Michael A.; Strawn, George; Geraghty, John P.; Irven, Candy; jeffkaplan88@gmail.com; Dave McAllister; Bobbi Martin; Malcolm Crompton; Sylvia Webb; Khoshafian, Setrag; Lee, Deirdre; Eriksen Gorm Haug; Jared Gulian; Martin Kaltenböck
Subject:W3C eGov Meeting (Los Angeles time)
When:Friday, October 19, 2012 11:00 AM-12:30 PM (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada).
Where:+1-617-761-6200 or sip:zakim@voip.w3.org then conference code 3468# ("EGOV#")
When: Friday, October 19, 2012 11:00 AM-12:30 PM. (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)
Where: +1-617-761-6200 orsip:zakim@voip.w3.orgthen conference code 3468# ("EGOV#")


	* Presentation on Social Media in Taiwan (TH Schee)
	* Summary of previous 3 months of key social media uses by governments and best practices (Jeanne)
	* A list of best practices, suggestions, and examples will be posted on the wiki and presented
	* We encourage everyone to add more. This will serve as a template for the other topics we'll be covering as well.
	* Brainstorm ideas for the community directory project
	* What information should we share, how to document, how to maintain
	* Recommendations for open data discussions and speakers for the next few months
	* Continued discussion on public engagement and open source (aka the Clay Shirky video): http://www.ted.com/talks/clay_shirky_how_the_internet_will_one_day_transform_government.html 
October 19, Friday, 8:00-9:30 am PST (Your Time Zone: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=W3C+eGov+Interest+Group%3A+Western&iso=20121019T08&p1=137&ah=1&am=30 )
For those of you attending the W3C Brazil meeting next week, let me know and we'll try and touch base face to face!
--Telecon line: Dial +1-617-761-6200 or sip:zakim@voip.w3.org then conference code 3468# ("EGOV#")
--W3C IRC channel #egov, see http://www.w3.org/Project/IRC/ or use http://irc.w3.org/?channels=egov 
--Scribe: (please volunteer, if you've done this before)
--Group access via the W3C at http://www.w3.org/egov/ and also via LinkedIn at the W3C eGovernment Interest Group: http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1800648&trk=hb_side_g 
We have published the draft roadmap document to the wiki at http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki. We welcome your comments and suggestions. Please feel free to edit the wiki directly or send comments to this list or to Tomasz or Jeanne.  I'll also be including this on our LinkedIn group discussion site at:  http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1800648&trk=hb_side_g 
Some of the concrete outcomes of these discussions will be a community directory, an eGov library, and other resources that would be useful to the group. More generally, we hope to build understanding and consensus on various aspects and stages of e-government, and on the role of web standards in developing and managing e-government systems.
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