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From: Holm, Jeanne M (1760) <jeanne.m.holm@jpl.nasa.gov>
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 09:47:49 +0000
To: Serafín Olcoz <olcoz@ej-gv.es>, Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>, "eGov IG (Public)" <public-egov-ig@w3.org>
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Serafin--

My apologies for overlooking the earlier suggestion for your talk.  I'd be
happy to put you on the agenda.  I'll sort out the details with you
offline.

--Jeanne

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On 11/19/12 1:40 AM, "Serafín Olcoz" <olcoz@ej-gv.es> wrote:

>Dear Phil,
>
>I submitted a proposal about a Decree of Basque Government related to Open
>Data and Open Government and I did not receive any feedback from anybody.
>Could you please tell me how to proceed in order that Basque Government
>proposal, as W3C member, should be taken into account and discussed in
>this
>WG? Maybe including it in the Agenda of a next meeing or so...
>
>Best regards,
>
>Serafin Olcoz
>
>
>El 16/11/12 18:41, "Phil Archer" <phila@w3.org> escribió:
>
>> Minutes of today's eGov IG meeting are at
>> 
>> http://www.w3.org/2012/11/16-egov-minutes.html

>> 
>> And copied below as text for those that prefer it that way (like me :-))
>> 
>>                          eGov IG 16 November 2012
>> 
>> 16 Nov 2012
>> 
>>     See also: [2]IRC log
>> 
>>        [2] http://www.w3.org/2012/11/16-egov-irc

>> 
>> Attendees
>> 
>>     Present
>>            +1.508.333.aaaa, +1.303.869.aabb, bhyland, PhilA2,
>>            GannonDick, +1.703.281.aacc, GwynSutherlin, thschee,
>>            bgryth, brand, +3539149aaee, DeirdreLee, Jeanne_Holm,
>>            +1.202.651.aaff
>> 
>>     Chair
>>            Jeanne Holm
>> 
>>     Scribe
>>            PhilA2, Jeanne, Bernadette
>> 
>> Contents
>> 
>>       * [3]Topics
>>           1. [4]Summary of ISWC2012, ISWC, ISWC12
>>           2. [5]Plans for topic or Open data
>>           3. [6]Bernadette Hyland on TPAC 2012
>>           4. [7]Brian Gryth on Open Data
>>           5. [8]Daniel Bennett Plans for Summarizing eGov
>>              Discussions
>>           6. [9]WWW2013 Brazil
>>       __________________________________________________________
>> 
>>     <bhyland> good morning all
>> 
>>     <GwynSutherlin> I think I'm an IP caller too
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> Um, me too.
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> Good day all.
>> 
>>     <bgryth> Good day all
>> 
>>     <bhyland>  Agenda
>> 
>>     <bhyland> • 0800-0810: Open Data Kickoff (Jeanne Holm)
>> 
>>     <bhyland> • 0810-0830: 2012 TPAC Overview (Bernadette Hyland)
>> 
>>     <bhyland> ◦ TPAC 2012:
>>     [10]http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-liberte-and-th

>>     e-open-web-platform/
>> 
>>       [10] 
>> 
>http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-liberte-and-the-open-web-plat

>form>
>/
>> 
>>     <bhyland> ◦ TPAC 2012:
>>     [11]http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-4-days-of-open

>>     -web-standards-nouvelle-cuisine/
>> 
>>       [11] 
>> 
>>http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-4-days-of-open-web-standards

>>-nouv
>> elle-cuisine/
>> 
>>     <bhyland> • 0830-0855: OpenColorado (Brian Gryth)
>> 
>>     <bhyland> • 0855-0920: Plans for Summarizing eGov Discussions
>>     (Daniel Bennett)
>> 
>>     <bhyland> • 0920-0930: Call for session on open data at
>>     [12]http://www2013.org/ (Jeanne Holm)
>> 
>>       [12] http://www2013.org/

>> 
>>     ISWC info at [13]http://iswc2012.semanticweb.org/

>> 
>>       [13] http://iswc2012.semanticweb.org/

>> 
>>     <GannonDick> I have no idea what I'm doing
>> 
>> Summary of ISWC2012, ISWC, ISWC12
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> The keynote I gave is online already at
>>     [14]http://www.slideshare.net/jeanneholm1/iswc-2012-keynote

>> 
>>       [14] http://www.slideshare.net/jeanneholm1/iswc-2012-keynote

>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> Gannon...follow what I do...
>> 
>>     <GannonDick> got it
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: ISWC2012 was very good, every other
>>     poster session referenced linked data, which was a change
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: Previously was OWL, inferencing, and was
>>     more about big data and scaling
>> 
>>     <GannonDick> bhyland: half from Europe
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: Largely European, next Asia, next
>>     US--but clearly global impact. Perhaps 700+ at the conference
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> :-)
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: Big projects, large scale, commercial
>>     projects as well
>> 
>>     <bgryth> yeah iTirage
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> iTriage was started by two doctors from Colorado
>> 
>>     Jeanne_Holm: Thanks everyone who has been participating in the
>>     last 3 months or so
>>     ... Trying to get people from different and diverse countries
>>     ... we've concluded proceedings on social media for now. Daniel
>>     is going to talk about how we're going to craft an actual W3C
>>     Note from that
>> 
>> Plans for topic or Open data
>> 
>>     Jeanne_Holm: Talks coming up on aggregating and using open data
>>     ... starting with broad scale over views and we'll then get
>>     into more specifics
>>     ... we can extend the series as long as the group wants us to
>> 
>> Bernadette Hyland on TPAC 2012
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> I got it Phil...
>> 
>>     <bhyland>  TPAC 2012:
>>     [15]http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-liberte-and-th

>>     e-open-web-platform/
>> 
>>       [15] 
>> 
>http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-liberte-and-the-open-web-plat

>form>
>/
>> 
>>     <bhyland>     ◦    TPAC 2012:
>>     [16]http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-4-days-of-open

>>     -web-standards-nouvelle-cuisine/
>> 
>>       [16] 
>> 
>>http://3roundstones.com/2012/11/08/tpac-2012-4-days-of-open-web-standards

>>-nouv
>> elle-cuisine/
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: At TPAC 2012 this year eGov and Gov
>>     Linked Data groups did not have a formal event, although they
>>     did last year
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: The technical plenary and advisory
>>     committee (TPAC) is where the 380 member organizations have a
>>     chance to impact the priorities of the W3C
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: W3C staff can also share what is going
>>     on with the overall organization. Each member company (like IBM
>>     or Oracle) gets one representative.
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: W3C put on an amazing event and the
>>     blogs posted above contain my notes
>> 
>>     Pretty much any and all praise for the organisation of TPAC is
>>     due to the rather wonderful Alex
>>     [17]http://www.w3.org/People/all#alex

>> 
>>       [17] http://www.w3.org/People/all#alex

>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: Jeff''s key point was that the W3C is in
>>     early phase of adoption and was grounded that there is a lot to
>>     be done
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: Big project with focus is HTML5 but
>>     won't be published formally as a standard until 2014
>> 
>>     Web Platform [18]http://www.webplatform.org/

>> 
>>       [18] http://www.webplatform.org/

>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: Web developers of all kinds should have
>>     a place on the web where they can get access to documentation
>>     (Doug Shepherd?) which is the clearing house
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> correction: Web Platform as noted
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: There is a Department of Education grant
>>     to the W3C for the person to help lead the accessibility
>>     group--very cool and impressive with the number of people who
>>     are producing the platform at all levels of abilities
>> 
>>     Worth noting that our Web Content Accessibility Guidelines are
>>     cited in the legislation of several countries (as well as more
>>     in gov guidelines)
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: Extraordinary experience, who's who of
>>     thought leaders, not academic like ISWC. You should definitely
>>     participate and plan to attend when able. Well honed W3C
>>     infrastructure.
>> 
>>     Community Groups and Business Groups have replaced Incubator
>>     Groups as the quick start, lightweight process for
>>     bringing/airing work at W3C
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: Community groups are new to W3C--if
>>     someone has an idea for something (like Henry Story on WebID)
>>     and gets 5 people to agree, then they can propose a community.
>> 
>>     <Daniel_Bennett> Jenni Tennison did a great key note about
>>     linking RDF, JSON as well as HTML and XML
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: JSON developers proposed a spec for
>>     working with linked data as an example (had been initiated by a
>>     community group)
>> 
>>     -> JSON-LD Community Group
>>     [19]http://www.w3.org/community/json-ld/

>> 
>>       [19] http://www.w3.org/community/json-ld/

>> 
>>     ->emerging JSON-LD syntax spec
>>     [20]http://www.w3.org/TR/json-ld-syntax/

>> 
>>       [20] http://www.w3.org/TR/json-ld-syntax/

>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: Great way for companies to be able to
>>     contribute to the open web platform
>> 
>>     <Daniel_Bennett> video by Jenni Tennison about linking RDF,
>>     JSON, HTML, and XML
>>     [21]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K_CAiVyqTQ

>> 
>>       [21] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K_CAiVyqTQ

>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: Big emphasis was on HTML5, mobile
>>     support and devices, and the Open Web Platform
>> 
>>     <GannonDick> jalapenos for pizza available ?
>> 
>>     Ooh, thanks Daniel_Bennett I've not seen that
>> 
>>     <bhyland> #1 theme from Gov't breakout was:
>> 
>>     <bhyland> Everyone wants ROI stories for publication &
>>     consumption of Linked Data.
>> 
>>     <bhyland> #2 - Common problem is overwhelming government
>>     officials with tech speak. Consider having a template from
>>     which internal champions can pull language:
>> 
>>     <bhyland> • Financial benefits
>> 
>>     <bhyland> • Social responsibility benefits
>> 
>>     <bhyland> • Legal & regulatory benefits
>> 
>>     <bhyland> • Technical benefits
>> 
>>     <bhyland> #3 theme - Need to document on W3C site compelling
>>     applications using Linked Data are critical, beef up SWEO
>>     concept & bring it up to date for LD deployments in the wild.
>>     This will help Gartner too.
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm>
>>     [22]http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/images/d/d6/Gryth_OpenData_eGov

>>     .ppt
>> 
>>       [22] 
>>http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/images/d/d6/Gryth_OpenData_eGov.ppt

>> 
>>     Jeanne_Holm: Thanks Bernadette. We're seeing real traction on
>>     data across the board - good stuff!
>> 
>> Brian Gryth on Open Data
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: The vision of Open Colorado is that we
>>     are looking to support transformation that is happening in
>>     goverment that will be more beautiful, simply and easy to use
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: We are created to help make that happen
>> 
>>     slide 3
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Education, tools, and partnerships are
>>     the focus
>> 
>>     Slide 4
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Education = W3C, Code for America, OKF
>>     involvement, plus CGATE, which is open government at local
>>     levels
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: DenverCog--regional group that works with
>>     governments to free up the data
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: OpenColorado helps to host data as well
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> Colorado Municipal League--city managers and
>>     attorneys, presentations on what open government is and
>>     touching on open data and policies that are needed
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Social media trainings, and
>>     CityCamps--last one in October and a combo
>>     conference/unconference
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> [23]http://opencolorado.org/citycamp-colorado/

>> 
>>       [23] http://opencolorado.org/citycamp-colorado/

>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: The tool component is at
>>     [24]http://data.opencolorado.org

>> 
>>       [24] http://data.opencolorado.org/

>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: We look at how to make data findable and
>>     get it out. We have Denver, Arvada, Boulder, Castlerock, and
>>     counties of Denver and Boulder. A CKAN instance from OKF.
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Went with CKAN based on Data.gov.uk model
>>     of using open source platform and tools (US Data.gov was custom
>>     built at that time)
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> (Personal note: Data.gov released open source
>>     code on Github now too ;-)
>>     [25]https://github.com/opengovplatform

>> 
>>       [25] https://github.com/opengovplatform

>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: First city camp had a lot of CEOs and
>>     CIOs saying that data was open, but didn't know how to go to
>>     the next step with policies
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: We sat down and wrote a policy based on
>>     President Obama's open government directive and created a model
>>     policy that looked at the ways to create a policy
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Cook County adopted as well as others
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Technology + policy component
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: We are a small group and this is not our
>>     main jobs, so we need help to build capacity and we partner
>>     with governments
>> 
>>     we're now on slide 6
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: A lot of gov attorneys do not know about
>>     IP, but there is a shift now and we are helping them understand
>>     about open record requests, digital material, and trademarks
>>     and open data and open gov
>> 
>>     <bhyland> @bgryth, do you want to take questions interleaved or
>>     at end?
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: At same time as this CityCamp, there was
>>     Denver StartUp week and we ran events on civic innovation
>>     [26]http://denverstartupweek.com/

>> 
>>       [26] http://denverstartupweek.com/

>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Had an apps challenge and got two
>>     winners: Open Bike (bike lockers, thefts, paths) lets people
>>     create and rate bike routes (overview at
>>     [27]http://opencolorado.org/citycamp-colorado-2012-presenters/)
>> 
>>       [27] http://opencolorado.org/citycamp-colorado-2012-presenters/)
>> 
>>     <GwynSutherlin> Indy needs an app like that. they are bike/car
>>     planning challenged
>> 
>>     Apps around bicyle usage is interesting. How do you comment on
>>     a point of interest along the route? i.e. how do you represent
>>     a POI I wonder
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Second winner: Displaying and visualizing
>>     the data around crime
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Next focus is on rural communities that
>>     may not have digital literacy or technologies, they give a lot
>>     back to the big cities, so how to help each other
>> 
>>     <GwynSutherlin> internet access in rural US is worse than in
>>     middle of amazon
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: We are creating an Adopt a City program
>>     (slide 7) that over 4 years helps rural cities get up and
>>     running through training and mentorship
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Code for Communities:
>>     odeforcommunities.org
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Code for communities:
>>     [28]http://codeforcommunities.org

>> 
>>       [28] http://codeforcommunities.org/

>> 
>>     <bgryth> denver-wiki.org
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> [29]http://denver-wiki.org

>> 
>>       [29] http://denver-wiki.org/

>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Storify on CityCamp:
>>     [30]http://storify.com/michelehovet/citycampco-2012.

>> 
>>       [30] http://storify.com/michelehovet/citycampco-2012.

>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Host to Host a City Camp:
>>     [31]http://www.govtech.com/govgirl/How-to-Host-a-CityCamp.html

>> 
>>       [31] http://www.govtech.com/govgirl/How-to-Host-a-CityCamp.html

>> 
>>     <bhyland> whew! Does bgryth breath??
>> 
>>     <GannonDick> don't think so
>> 
>>     bhyland: Are you one of the oldest city open gov data efforts?
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> (Gannon--are you up for scribing the next talk?)
>> 
>>     bgryth: We're first to adopt CKAN in the USA
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: We started using CKAN in 2010
>> 
>>     bgryth: we're one of the older ones
>> 
>>     <GannonDick> trying jeanne can't type fst enough
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bhyland: Questions: would it make sense to get a
>>     funded model? Have you surveyed or gotten seed funding?
>> 
>>     bhyland: Huge achievements so far, but hwo about getting
>>     funding so it moves out of the willing volunteer sphere
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: We have some funding to support website
>> 
>>     bgryth: We have some funding for the hosting (on Amazon)
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> Thanks!
>> 
>>     bgryth: We're going to have to look at different models. WE
>>     have a lot of partners. Denver almost doubled our catalogue.
>>     DRCOG is the largest and we're getting that by scraping their
>>     site
>>     ... need to look at improving that
>>     ... right now it's free for the gov. We'd like to change that
>>     ... need a more sustainable model
>>     ... got ideas on working with other portals. Want to integrate
>>     across not just catalogues bu catalogue platforms
>>     ... the 6 of us that do this are running at capacity. We need
>>     help
>> 
>>     bhyland: The other comment I'd make... I work on getting
>>     federal data published. Screen scraped data is likely to back
>>     fire as it is brittle
>>     ... no thought about licences, URI persistence etc.
>>     ... feels like a bunch of enthusiastic university folk. Needs
>>     broader/state/federal level support
>>     ... I want to help make it more sustainable
>> 
>>     bgryth: I agree... we want to make sure that we do what you're
>>     saying
>>     ... needs to become sustainable
>>     ... I don't want it to become like a box ticking exercise with
>>     no commitment
>>     ... they need to put resources behind it
>> 
>>     <bhyland> It is *really* important that our open government
>>     data efforts are implemented in a sustainable manner, with
>>     OSI-approved Open Licenses are associated with data sets, and
>>     other key metadata about publication frequency, disclaimers,
>>     etc
>> 
>>     <bhyland> … and well considered Web architecture
>> 
>>     <bhyland> … and done in a scalable manner that avoid data
>>     duplication
>> 
>>     bgryth: For the hackathon, we didn't give prize money, we got a
>>     management firm to give them their kind of help to help them be
>>     more sustainable
>> 
>>     [32]http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/openstandards

>> 
>>       [32] http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/openstandards

>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> PhilA2: Interesting to see the different
>>     perspective where there is investment in the UK and here in
>>     Colorado it's a volunteer effort for OpenColorado
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> PhilA2: Are there standards you wish existed if
>>     people would use them?
>> 
>>     <bhyland> RE: W3C Government Linked Data Standards …
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: There are a lot of organizations looking
>>     at the problems around this
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> bgryth: Trying to form a CKAN association and
>>     then work with the W3C
>> 
>>     <bhyland> @ggryth - I'd invite you to consider discussing /
>>     contributing some of the lessons learned about managing
>>     datasets to help it become codified in a W3C published Best
>>     Practices doc ...
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> (Daniel--are you set?)
>> 
>>     <bhyland> bgryth: License
>> 
>>     <bhyland> Select the license under which the data is
>>     released.OpenColorado recommends either of the following
>>     licenses:[33]http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/h

>>     ttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
>> 
>>       [33] 
>> 
>>http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/http://creativecommons.o

>>rg/li
>> censes/by/3.0/
>> 
>> Daniel Bennett Plans for Summarizing eGov Discussions
>> 
>>     <bgryth> Thanks everyone!
>> 
>>     See wiki [34]http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Plans

>> 
>>       [34] http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Plans

>> 
>>     <Daniel_Bennett> [35]http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Plans

>> 
>>       [35] http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Plans

>> 
>>     <bhyland> @pgryth, thank you for a very comprehensive dive on
>>     Open Colorado, great work! Very interesting, thank you.
>> 
>>     Daniel_Bennett: The idea is that for each of these, we'll have
>>     a meeting to get us towards a concrete/finsihed product. These
>>     will be separate from the monthly eGov IG meetings
>>     ... Series of Meetings
>> 
>>     Whiteboard/Ideas session
>> 
>>     Requirements
>> 
>>     Outline
>> 
>>     Delegation
>> 
>>     First Draft Deadline
>> 
>>     Executive Summary/One pager
>> 
>>     Editorial Session for content
>> 
>>     Editorial Session for accessibility, proofing, readability
>> 
>>     W3C vetting
>> 
>>     Daniel_Bennett: Delegation - volunteers often dry up so here's
>>     where we get people to commit to deliver a section
>>     ... that will tell us how real this is
>> 
>>     q
>> 
>>     <bhyland> Who is the target audience for this writeup?
>> 
>>     We can be quick when we have to be, honestly...
>> 
>>     <bhyland> @Daniel_Bennett … can you provide the 50,000' view of
>>     what you're aiming to achieve with this writeup please?
>> 
>>     Daniel_Bennett: We may use the wiki or we may have a secretary
>>     (prob me) who will collect text in whatever format and add it
>>     to the wiki
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> Target audience is for the larger community of
>>     eGov people who are not actually on the calls themselves.
>> 
>>     Daniel_Bennett: I think having a checklist for gov workers is
>>     important
>>     ... it can be something generic enough for everyone to use and
>>     can be tailored to specific circumstances
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> Daniel_Bennett: Have a menu for social media to
>>     broaden the possibilities
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm>
>>     [36]http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Checklist_for_Social_Media

>> 
>>       [36] http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Checklist_for_Social_Media

>> 
>>     <bhyland> @Jeanne_Holm, so is it a summary of all the eGov
>>     meetings or a work product like a best practices doc?
>> 
>>     Daniel_Bennett: The idea is that there is a process - rules
>>     etc. on how they do things. So first thing would be to draw a
>>     diagram of how they do things in that department
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> Bhyland--a work product that will highlight some
>>     best practices (not to be an exhaustive research project) and
>>     the important things for gov implementers and those in the
>>     field to be aware of based on research and implementations
>>     presented from our group.
>> 
>>     <bhyland> @jeanne_holm, thanks, understand.
>> 
>>     Daniel_Bennett: Then any legal issues. The federal gov has a
>>     specific contract. Others might have similar things to deal
>>     with. Accessibility, privacy etc.
>>     ... May be rules on moderation
>>     ... May be rules on publishing government communications,
>>     activities etc.
>>     ... In the whiteboard session I can look at the different
>>     layers so folks can see who they'll need to talk to
>>     ... Moves on to the menu
>>     [37]http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Menu_for_Social_Media

>> 
>>       [37] http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Menu_for_Social_Media

>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> q
>> 
>>     Daniel_Bennett: Hoping to have a meeting every 2 weeks to make
>>     progress. Hope people are interested to lend a hand
>> 
>>     Jeanne_Holm: I just want to mention a couple of things. You've
>>     done some of these before - I like the framework
>>     ... You didn't volunteer to do everything.
>> 
>>     Daniel_Bennett: I volunteered to do the social media one
>> 
>>     Jeanne_Holm: We're looking for volunteers for this but also to
>>     do the same thing for the open data series as well
>> 
>>     Daniel_Bennett: Any questions or, better still, offers of help?
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> Please make sure to include me on the meeting for
>>     social media write up!
>> 
>>     Daniel_Bennett: I'll take help from outsdie the Interest Group!
>> 
>>     bhyland: I would encourage at least quarterly attendance for
>>     some folk here in the GLD Working Group
>>     [38]http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/

>> 
>>       [38] http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/

>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> These are great meetings and I enoucrage people
>>     to attend as well. I attend as able.
>> 
>>     bhyland: The vocab discussions may not be the ones of greatest
>>     interest but the best practice meetings would be - procurement,
>>     publishing etc.
>> 
>>     brand: In a broader perspective... all this work with
>>     government open data and linked data should have started in a
>>     different way. Should have started with most interesting data
>>     and then move other data sets to the same direction
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> Brand: This should have started in a different
>>     way with the best data from the gov agencies in the best
>>     standards and then to move the rest of the data that way.
>> 
>>     brand: We tried to make data.gov that way but it ended up
>>     essentially being an IT project
>>     ... I'm writing a paper for the Japanese government. They
>>     started with CKAN. I've been asked to take the statistical data
>>     they have and put that into a standardised linked data format
>>     as well as the CKAN data
>>     ... It's all about trying to take the best data a country has
>>     first and then get the open data to match
>> 
>> WWW2013 Brazil
>> 
>>     Jeanne_Holm: Are we interested in organising a session on
>>     eGov/Open data?
>>     ... It could be based on the social media Note that we should
>>     have published by then, possibly the one on open data by then
>>     too
>>     ... If we can come together in the coming weeks and see who
>>     wants to be involved - it's a good opportunity for the group
>> 
>>     General call for help with flights
>> 
>>     <bhyland> PhilA2: The W3C staff involved in Society &
>>     Technology Activity believe the tech stack is nearly complete.
>> 
>>     <bgryth> @bhyland - we would be happy to discuss lessons
>>     learned. Let me know how you'd like to do that.
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> PhilA2: OKF and UK ODI event on Open Data on the
>>     Web: use, discovery, find it programmatically, vocabulary
>>     development
>> 
>>     <bhyland> Next requirements involve: #1 - Validation; #2 -
>>     Programmatic & developer access & re-use of data; #3 -
>>     Vocabulary development (some being done in W3C GLD WG), looking
>>     to consider more 'crowd sourced' approaches ...
>> 
>>     <Jeanne_Holm> PhilA2: This is just tentative and may happen
>> 
>>     European data Forum 2013 [39]http://2013.data-forum.eu/

>> 
>>       [39] http://2013.data-forum.eu/

>> 
>>     <bhyland> European Data Forum, 9-10 April in Dublin Ireland …
>>     all about open data + Linked Data
>> 
>>     <bhyland> Yeah!
>> 
>>     Jeanne_Holm: Next meeting at this time is on 14th Dec
>>     ... Rufus Pollock is scheduled for the next IG meeting which is
>>     on 26th Nov 09:00GMT - bad for US folk, sorry
>>     ... Brain Handspicker has volunteered to scribe next time.
>> 
>>     <bhyland> @jeanne-holm, perhaps a 15 debrief on GLD WG
>>     including community directory work makes sense … a brief on
>>     what we've completed in last 16 mos & plan for remaining months
>>     of our charter (7 mos).
>> 
>>     <Daniel_Bennett> thanks Jeanne. volunteers can list their names
>>     on the Plans wiki page or email me daniel@citizencontact.com
>> 
>> 
>>
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