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Re: Tools for eGovernance

From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 11:13:25 +0000
Message-ID: <CAMXe=Sr6KZAYF6C5KnbH2gh-LJ0QJrnP8odXOh8Jqbgm9WaBpQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>
Cc: "eGov IG (Public)" <public-egov-ig@w3.org>, acusson@01communications.com, Jay Fohs <Jay.Fohs@marklogic.com>
Thanks a lot Owen
it does look 'beautiful', it renders well

I can see one possible use: when enough people have their vision in
strathml we can run a query to match 'like' people and organisations and
this could help us form collaborative clusters
using semantic similarity

Just a couple of thoughts:
-would it be good to have only one file/url per entity (istcs) so that when
I have to update the info, i can do so by updating only one file, and have
all other instances automatically import the refreshed file every so often

- what's the best way to update the file when I have a minute to complete
the profile (other than sending it to you)

thank you

PDM

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net> wrote:

> Paola, your plan for ISTCS is now available in the StratML collection at
> http://xml.gov/stratml/drybridge/index.htm#ISTCS or, more specifically,
> http://xml.gov/stratml/dimaio/ISTCS.xml &
> http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/ISTCS2wStyle.xml Please note that I made a
> few adjustments in the latter rendition of your plan.  Your goal<http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/ISTCS2wStyle.xml#_f173517a-2d8b-11e2-a125-b56f5b280d48>should be exciting to many people.
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> When Andre has imported your plan into his StratML portal<http://stratml.hyperbase.com/documents.html>,
> his form <http://www.hyperbase.com/xml/cosmos/resource/apps/stratedit.xml>can be used to flesh it out as a performance plan, with designated roles
> and performance indicators.  I trust that he will be happy to have folks
> like you use his portal to post their plans and reports.****
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> However, the vision of the StratML standard is:  *A worldwide web of
> intentions, stakeholders, and results* … meaning that folks should be
> free to post their plans and reports wherever they choose on the public
> Web.  Service providers should compete for the privilege not only to host
> StratML formatted plans and reports but also to make the information and
> data they contain readily usable and useful to stakeholders.  MarkLogic,
> for example, is redeveloping their StratML search service.
> http://xml.gov/stratml/index.htm#MarkLogic ****
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> BTW, while I was at it, I also converted ISTCS’s somewhat more formal
> about us statement, at http://xml.gov/stratml/carmel/ISTCSwStyle.xml ****
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> Owen****
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> *From:* paoladimaio10@gmail.com [mailto:paoladimaio10@gmail.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Paola Di Maio
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:10 AM
> *To:* eGov IG (Public)
> *Subject:* Fwd: Tools for eGovernance****
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> From: *Paola Di Maio* <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Tools for eGovernance
> To: Owen Ambur <Owen.Ambur@verizon.net>
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> Owen****
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> Paola, don’t get me started on the term “governance” … which all-too-often
> implies trying to gain the upper hand, politically speaking, to force **
> others** to do things, rather than focusing on that which we could and
> should do for ourselves, in partnership with those who share not only our
> values but also our objectives.****
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> Thank you for the reminder that this group is still not started taking
> steps (unless I missed it) toward creating a shared definition for
> egovernance (see previous emails). Not sure if the members of the group
> have been surveyed yet to see what definition would work for them etc. (but
> we had some exhcnages on this list to that effect) ****
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> BTW, it is good to see that you have documented a mission and personal
> goal at http://personal.strath.ac.uk/paola.dimaio/  Imagine what might be
> accomplished if multitudes of people were to document not only their
> longer-term goals but also their near-term objectives on the Web in an **open,
> standard, machine-readable format** like StratML.****
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> Thank yo for the prompt****
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> I have gone to STRATHML creator and created a test file to start with-****
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> is there  a directory of strathml files I can load to>****
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> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5XeDqbLLqHSQWpDdnFfLUdkbWs/edit****
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> cheers****
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> PDM****
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> Owen Ambur****
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> Co-Chair, AIIM StratML <http://xml.gov/stratml/index.htm> Committee****
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> Co-Chair Emeritus, xml.gov CoP****
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> Communications/Membership Director, FIRM<http://firmcouncil.org/index.htm>
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> Former Project Manager, ET.gov <http://et.gov/>****
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> Invited Expert, W3C eGov IG<http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=42481&public=1>
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> *From:* Holm, Jeanne M (1760) [mailto:jeanne.m.holm@jpl.nasa.gov]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 12, 2012 6:30 AM
> *To:* Tim Davies; paoladimaio10@googlemail.com
> *Cc:* eGov IG (Public)****
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> *Subject:* Re: Tools for eGovernance****
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> Paola and Tim--****
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> It is less about which tools can and could be used (there are many), than
> about the policies of the bodies which govern and convene the meetings.  My
> understanding is that the W3C has good reasons why they do not actually
> record or make recordable the verbal discussions and broadcasts from the
> meetings.  For this group, therefore, I abide by those rules.****
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> However, there could certainly be an interesting discussion on the list
> and in our meetings on how best to accomplish (or what ways we could
> accomplish) the easiest participation in such activities if policies were
> changed or for groups where the policies are different.****
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> --Jeanne****
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> **********************************************************
> Jeanne Holm
> Evangelist, Data.gov
> U.S. General Services Administration****
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> Cell: (818) 434-5037
> Twitter/Facebook/LinkedIn: JeanneHolm
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> *From: *Tim Davies <tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk>
> *Date: *Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:18:10 +0000
> *To: *<paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>
> *Cc: *"eGov IG (Public)" <public-egov-ig@w3.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Tools for eGovernance
> *Resent-From: *<public-egov-ig@w3.org>
> *Resent-Date: *Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:18:59 +0000****
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> Just a quick pointer to an interesting Working Draft from the IETF on
> Remote Participation: ****
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> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-genarea-rps-reqs/?include_text=1
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> As IETF highlight, and as is mirrored by my experience last week trying to
> remote participate in the Internet Governance Forum, which has also worked
> hard to support remote panelists and participation, the right mix of tools
> and practices to support remote participation in face-to-face meetings, and
> effective cross-platform online-only meetings, currently still seem
> somewhat elusive. ****
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> There has been the suggestion in past Internet Governance Forum
> discussions on Remote Participation that it would be good to have a shared
> project between a number of conferences / fora which have a governance
> function to develop shared tools, principles and guidance for
> e-Participation in meetings - but as yet nothing has come of this. Perhaps
> it's something that could have connections to the eGov meeting.****
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> All the best****
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> Tim****
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> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
> wrote:****
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> just a quick household note ****
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> I may have asked this before, apologies for repetition****
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> I find it hard to understand why the calls are not broadcast using some
> webex type application****
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> ( anymeeting.com  is free and works well and there are others)****
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> While when I am based at the office I have free calls to most countries
> and can easily spend hours on the phone****
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> without breaking the budget for this effort however when I travel (which
> in the last few months has been a constant and it is likely to get worse)*
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> it's difficult, expensive and not always possible to get on the phone long
> distance.****
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> This means I cannot volunteer to scribe (I am sure it would be my turn at
> some point)****
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> I must say that I have the same observation for other similar events, for
> example I could not attend in person****
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> yesterday the #sw2022 session at #iswc2012 ,  so sorry I am missing the
> opportunity to meet in person so many of you!!****
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> Slides****
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> http://www.slideshare.net/PaolaDIM/sw10-yearslides****
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> Voiceover****
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9bqBBJNIF4&list=UUcxJu04fCSkU9x1e7BwYYHQ&index=2&feature=plcp
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> I would have expected a virtual connection to present remotely and take
> part in the panel discussion remotely, but apparently this was not even
> contemplated by the organisers****
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> the bottom line is: how can we eGovern ourselves, without adopting the
> necessary eGovernance tools?****
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> This brings up another possible topic for discussion, 'Principles and
> Tools  for eGovernance' (sine qua non)****
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> I d love to present a topic or two, and to scribe, when the facilities are
> available****
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> In the meantime, keep it growing :-)****
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> Cheers****
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> PDM****
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