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Re: Tools for eGovernance

From: Holm, Jeanne M (1760) <jeanne.m.holm@jpl.nasa.gov>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:30:09 +0000
To: Tim Davies <tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk>, "paoladimaio10@googlemail.com" <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>
CC: "eGov IG (Public)" <public-egov-ig@w3.org>
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Paola and Tim--

It is less about which tools can and could be used (there are many), than about the policies of the bodies which govern and convene the meetings.  My understanding is that the W3C has good reasons why they do not actually record or make recordable the verbal discussions and broadcasts from the meetings.  For this group, therefore, I abide by those rules.

However, there could certainly be an interesting discussion on the list and in our meetings on how best to accomplish (or what ways we could accomplish) the easiest participation in such activities if policies were changed or for groups where the policies are different.

--Jeanne

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From: Tim Davies <tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk<mailto:tim@practicalparticipation.co.uk>>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:18:10 +0000
To: <paoladimaio10@googlemail.com<mailto:paoladimaio10@googlemail.com>>
Cc: "eGov IG (Public)" <public-egov-ig@w3.org<mailto:public-egov-ig@w3.org>>
Subject: Re: Tools for eGovernance
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Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:18:59 +0000

Just a quick pointer to an interesting Working Draft from the IETF on Remote Participation:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-genarea-rps-reqs/?include_text=1

As IETF highlight, and as is mirrored by my experience last week trying to remote participate in the Internet Governance Forum, which has also worked hard to support remote panelists and participation, the right mix of tools and practices to support remote participation in face-to-face meetings, and effective cross-platform online-only meetings, currently still seem somewhat elusive.

There has been the suggestion in past Internet Governance Forum discussions on Remote Participation that it would be good to have a shared project between a number of conferences / fora which have a governance function to develop shared tools, principles and guidance for e-Participation in meetings - but as yet nothing has come of this. Perhaps it's something that could have connections to the eGov meeting.

All the best

Tim

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com<mailto:paola.dimaio@gmail.com>> wrote:
just a quick household note

I may have asked this before, apologies for repetition

I find it hard to understand why the calls are not broadcast using some webex type application
( anymeeting.com<http://anymeeting.com>  is free and works well and there are others)

While when I am based at the office I have free calls to most countries and can easily spend hours on the phone
without breaking the budget for this effort however when I travel (which in the last few months has been a constant and it is likely to get worse)
it's difficult, expensive and not always possible to get on the phone long distance.

This means I cannot volunteer to scribe (I am sure it would be my turn at some point)

I must say that I have the same observation for other similar events, for example I could not attend in person
yesterday the #sw2022 session at #iswc2012 ,  so sorry I am missing the opportunity to meet in person so many of you!!

Slides
http://www.slideshare.net/PaolaDIM/sw10-yearslides
Voiceover
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9bqBBJNIF4&list=UUcxJu04fCSkU9x1e7BwYYHQ&index=2&feature=plcp


I would have expected a virtual connection to present remotely and take part in the panel discussion remotely, but apparently this was not even contemplated by the organisers

the bottom line is: how can we eGovern ourselves, without adopting the necessary eGovernance tools?

This brings up another possible topic for discussion, 'Principles and Tools  for eGovernance' (sine qua non)

I d love to present a topic or two, and to scribe, when the facilities are available

In the meantime, keep it growing :-)

Cheers

PDM





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