- From: John Erickson <olyerickson@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 15:12:19 -0400
- To: paoladimaio10@googlemail.com
- Cc: "eGov IG (Public)" <public-egov-ig@w3.org>
So, I understand that this thread is about trying to pin down a more specific definition of eGovernment --- which is interesting, because that didn't seem to be a problem for the previous manifestation of this IG, which led to the W3C GLD WG. I'd like to take exception with the comment, "...Its a complex issue, so far this IG does not seem to have a procedure in place to enable the IG members for governance..." since the W3C eGov IG functions within the context of the W3C and by definition has well-defined governance. It's not perfect, but it is an effective process built on consultation and consensus. I guess I'd like to understand where we are headed with this discussion. Are we ultimately trying to define a clearer eGov IG agenda, for example? Thanks, John On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote: > John > > thanks for reminder of relevant snippet in the charter, the discussion is > zig zaging a bit, which is sometimes an outcome of evolutionary processes. > > Several questions were asked on the list in relation to the scope and > processes of these IG, > various threads came up to deal with these questions > > if i remember correctly, this particular thread attempts to get members > provide input into how to define e-Government (since there is no evidence > how the existing working definition came into being, and whether such a > working definition is relevant/useful to the list member as it is). > > The discussion started evaluating the relation e-government - e-democracy. > > According to literature (see related threads), is necessary to define > e-government meaningfully within the context of legitimacy (as mandated by > the UN for example) > > So basically, members of this IG seem to agree that e-Government is (and > must be) a function of democracy, > > Its a complex issue, so far this IG does not seem to have a procedure in > place to enable > the IG members for governance > self referential loop [1]) > > So, in a complex socio-technical world worldview, e-democracy is the context > (read: constraint, boundary) for what this IG is about > > (Discuss?) > > > PDM > > > [1] E-Government, E-Services and Global Processes: Joint IFIP TC 8 and TC 6 > International Conferences, EGES 2010 and GISP 2010, Held as Part of WCC > 2010, Brisbane, Australia, September 20-23, 2010, Proceeding Page 66 > > > > > > > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:39 PM, John Erickson <olyerickson@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Discussions of terms like "e-Democracy" are all well and good, >> but...methinks this is the W3C eGovernment (eGov) IG >> <http://bit.ly/Kf6vai> and "...is chartered to serve as a connector >> among people, especially government employees, looking for ways to use >> or promote the use of W3C technologies to improve government services >> and operations. We believe these technologies can provide significant >> benefit to governments of all sizes, including city, regional, and >> national governments (and between governments), in all parts of the >> world. We also recognize that with new technologies and a changing >> world, new policy concerns arise; this group will also facilitate >> discussion to focus understanding of policy and security matters >> related to W3C technologies..." >> >> Sorry to be pedantic...I'm just lost why we have this continuing thread. >> >> John >> >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Mick Phythian <mick.phythian@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Thanks Steven, >> > >> > I think that's rounded enough to avoid any of the broader attributes >> > given >> > in other 'definitions' of e-democracy. >> > >> > Best, >> > >> > Mick http://greatemancipator.com >> > >> > On 4 May 2012 20:56, Steven Clift <clift@e-democracy.org> wrote: >> >> >> >> As the one who coined the shortened term "e-democracy" in 1994 before >> >> e-government, e-business, etc. were used, here is what I came up with >> >> on >> >> that one: >> >> >> >> http://dowire.org/wiki/E-democracy >> >> >> >> E-democracy represents the use of information and communication >> >> technologies and strategies by democratic actors within political and >> >> governance processes of local communities, nations and on the >> >> international >> >> stage. Democratic sectors/actors include governments, elected >> >> officials, the >> >> media, political organizations, and citizen/voters. >> >> >> >> To many, e-democracy suggests greater and more active citizen >> >> participation enabled by the Internet, mobile communications, and other >> >> technologies in today’s representative democracy as well as through >> >> more >> >> participatory or direct forms of citizen involvement in addressing >> >> public >> >> challenges. >> >> >> >> (Before sharing this definition, I used to simply say "e" or electronic >> >> and any definition of democracy that you use. :-)) >> >> >> >> Steven Clift >> >> clift@e-democracy.org - +1 612 234 7072 >> >> http://stevenclift.com - @democracy >> >> http://e-democracy.org - @edemo >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Mick Phythian PhD >> > >> > http://greatemancipator.com >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> John S. Erickson, Ph.D. >> Director, Web Science Operations >> Tetherless World Constellation (RPI) >> <http://tw.rpi.edu> <olyerickson@gmail.com> >> Twitter & Skype: olyerickson >> > -- John S. Erickson, Ph.D. Director, Web Science Operations Tetherless World Constellation (RPI) <http://tw.rpi.edu> <olyerickson@gmail.com> Twitter & Skype: olyerickson
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