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RE: [open-government] Public Data Catalog Priorities and Demand

From: Maria Mercè Rovira <merce.rovira@udg.edu>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 10:20:33 +0100
To: "'Ton Zijlstra'" <ton.zijlstra@gmail.com>, <innovation-navigator@chello.at>
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Thanks Ton. That sounds a very good idea... 
I'm working for the municipality of Girona, in Catalonia-Spain. I was in
1998 in Brussels for the public hearing and presentation of the green book
on PSI re-use... that's a looooooong time ago... not much information
circulated til recent years on the issue (better... I didn't get it). We
kept the philosophy in our SAC (Citizens Information and Attention Services
= the unique access points to info and services for citizens and buss in
Spain from 1989), but the fight for getting everything published on the
websites or at least available on demand was so hard (not always for
political will, many times due to staff reluctances and corporate issues...)
finished with the spirit of most of us! 
It'd be great to build a complete set of references to ease the newcomers'
path to this new momentum. 
 
M Mercè Rovira Regàs
Ajuntament & Universitat de Girona 
Campus de Montilivi ed.P4 - 17003 Girona 
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[mailto:open-government-bounces@lists.okfn.org] On Behalf Of Ton Zijlstra
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Subject: Re: [open-government] Public Data Catalog Priorities and Demand
 
Hi Gerhard,
 
perhaps you can then enlighten Antti with some pointers to those "plenty of
publications,
either those of my colleagues or mine. Or addressed in previous EU
projects." for him to start getting the overview he wishes have. 
 
best,
Ton
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 <mailto:innovation-navigator@chello.at> Dear Antti, Dear Steven,

I do appreciate your enthusiasm. 
But open data and PSI re-use have been heavily researched and debated
on for now 14 years and not one.

All the addressed topics and questions can be found in plenty of
publications,
either those of my colleagues or mine. Or addressed in previous EU projects.
However, most publications are not for free. 
not only legal bus also businss opportunities and markets have been dealt
with.

You might redo the same work, but it will be very time-consuming.
Insiders know quite well which kind of PSI is asked for and what less.
And where the re-use barriers are constituted in Europe.

Best,


Gerhard
 <mailto:innovation-navigator@chello.at> 
On 09.01.2011 16:33, Antti "Jogi" Poikola wrote: 
 <mailto:innovation-navigator@chello.at> Happy new year, 
 <mailto:innovation-navigator@chello.at>  
 <mailto:innovation-navigator@chello.at> Has anyone collected information
about:
 <mailto:innovation-navigator@chello.at>  
 <mailto:innovation-navigator@chello.at> A) the applications / ideas / usage
/ demand of public sector data (i.e. categorized list of all kinds of
applications and application ideas)
 <mailto:innovation-navigator@chello.at>  
 <mailto:innovation-navigator@chello.at> B) the content of the data
catalogues, what kind of data is currently provided by the governments
(local, regional, national)
 <mailto:innovation-navigator@chello.at>  
 <mailto:innovation-navigator@chello.at> I'm trying to build the big picture
that would unite the general themes of the public sector data and the
general classes (current) of applications and application-ideas.
 <mailto:innovation-navigator@chello.at>  
 <mailto:innovation-navigator@chello.at> The question above is continuation
to the discussion started by Steven Clift over a year ago. Starting post is
below and the relevant archive links are:
 <mailto:innovation-navigator@chello.at>  
 <mailto:innovation-navigator@chello.at>
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2009Nov/0039.html
 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2009Nov/0039.html>  
 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2009Nov/0039.html>
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2009Dec/0038.html 
 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2009Dec/0038.html>  
 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2009Dec/0038.html> One
year is long time in the current open data movement, so I hope that I get
more insight knowledge and links now. 
 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2009Dec/0038.html>  
 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2009Dec/0038.html> -
Antti Poikola (Finland)
 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2009Dec/0038.html>  
 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2009Dec/0038.html> On
23 November 2009 18:20, Steven Clift <clift@e-democracy.org> wrote:
 <mailto:clift@e-democracy.org> Has anyone explored what government data is
in highest "demand" on the
emerging public data reuse sites? How does interest from different
re-user audiences vary (e.g.  business, media, open gov advocates,
independent coders, etc.)

Also, has anyone started a comparsion chart of what different
governments are providing? It would be interesting to quickly see what
 different national or local governments are providing now and over
time. This gets to the "what's important" to release for easy reuse
versus what is the easiest or least politically sensitive.

Steven Clift
E-Democracy.org

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