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Re: Group Call Tomorrow

From: Brian Gryth <briangryth@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:47:38 -0700
Message-ID: <894ba28d0911051247l4a5967acw7af924f6d9f36904@mail.gmail.com>
To: Jose Manuel Alonso <josema.alonso@fundacionctic.org>
Cc: "Novak, Kevin" <KevinNovak@aia.org>, chris-beer@grapevine.net.au, bruce.melendy@gmail.com, public-egov-ig@w3.org

Yes, a best practices guide would be helpful and having it centrally located
would be helpful as well.  A set standard best practice is a great
tool from my non-technical stand point.

If I may analogize from my experience as a lawyer, I work with the Uniform
Commercial Code (UCC).  The UCC is published by the National Conference of
Commissioner on Uniform State Laws in the United States and is a model
commercial code that State legislatures can adopt.  The benefit of the
UCC to commerce is huge because it standardizes the legal framework.  Thus,
a transaction in Colorado should have the same legal impact in New York or
California because the basic underlying code in the same.  Of course, some
states adopt non-uniform laws which can be problematic.  But non-uniformity
is sometimes necessary and can be dealt with.

So if the eGov IG took the same approach and created a stand best practice
to be adopted across jurisdictions could be helpful to all parties.  And in
some cases might help increase adoption.

Another thought is to create a practice, within the stand, of asking
government entities to publish or state any non-standard practices.  Which
at least in the legal community is helpful information and I am guessing
developers and other IT folks would find such information helpful.


On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Jose Manuel Alonso <
josema.alonso@fundacionctic.org> wrote:

> Agree.
> What is more... something we slightly discussed as group (ages ago) is if
> it would make sense to do that research and try to extract the common thing
> to build some sort of easy standard best practices at W3C based on those and
> W3C expertise and existing stuff.
> I would like to hear opinions about this. If this would be helpful or not..
> I believe if we could do this in a collaborative way with initiatives
> already mentioned we could eventually stop reinventing the wheel, release
> them as a W3C document, and maintain this common BPs at W3C.
> Does this make sense? Are those BPs out there related enough to make it?
> Are those developing and maintaining them interested in doing this? I
> believe David was positive about this in a previous email, would like to
> hear from Rachel and others.
> This might well be the main deliverable of the Education and Outreach TF.
> -- Jose
> El 29/10/2009, a las 12:53, Novak, Kevin escribió:
> Chris,
>> Good point. I think we have some references on the egov wiki but would
>> make sense to do another scan to learn what is new out there.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: public-egov-ig-request@w3.org <public-egov-ig-request@w3.org>
>> To: Bruce Melendy <bruce.melendy@gmail.com>
>> Cc: eGovIG IG <public-egov-ig@w3.org>
>> Sent: Thu Oct 29 06:28:12 2009
>> Subject: Re: Group Call Tomorrow
>> Thanks Bruce.
>> Bruce is correct, however most Departments in all levels of Government
>> in Australia (Victoria being a notable exception) do not publish thiers
>> to the public. Most will also mirror the AGIMO guide. It is worth noting
>> that this Publishing Guide is currently under review, and so content
>> there may be in a fluid state: http://wpgblog.agimo.gov.au/ .
>> This is not to say that collaboration or contact with relevant areas in
>> all levels of Australian Government in this regard won't yield some
>> results in obtaining copies of various Web Publishing Guides.
>> I'd be interested to see how many web publishing guides from the Public
>> Sector worldwide are available actually. Will be worth doing some search
>> engine trolling.
>> Cheers
>> Chris Beer
>> Invited Expert
>> W3C e-Gov IG
>> Bruce Melendy wrote:
>>> Further to that, the Australian Government Information Management
>>> Office maintains a web publishing guide:
>>> http://webpublishing.agimo.gov.au/
>>> And the Victorian government has a set of standards:
>>> http://www.egov.vic.gov.au/index.php?env=-categories:m390-1-1-8-s-0&reset=1
>>> <
>>> http://www.egov.vic.gov.au/index.php?env=-categories:m390-1-1-8-s-0&reset=1
>>> >
>>> (as do the other state and territory govts).
>>> Regards,
>>> Bruce
>>> Bruce Melendy | Senior Business Analyst
>>> Business Services | Department of Innovation, Industry and Regional
>>> Development
>>> Level 11, 55 Collins Street, Melbourne, Victoria 3000
>>> tel +61 3 9651 7274 | mob +61 419 306 020
>>> email: bruce.melendy@diird.vic.gov.au
>>> <mailto:bruce.melendy@diird.vic.gov.au>
>>> www.business.vic.gov.au <http://www.business.vic.gov.au> |
>>> www.diird.vic.gov.au <http://www.diird.vic.gov.au>
>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:37 PM, David Pullinger
>>> <David.Pullinger@coi.gsi.gov.uk
>>> <mailto:David.Pullinger@coi.gsi.gov.uk>> wrote:
>>>   Kevin,
>>>   Thank you. I am sure you will have other contributions from the
>>>   UK, but would like to add in the following:
>>>   3.  Best Practices for Using Web Technologies to Deliver Government
>>>   Services.
>>>   UK is developing a series of standards,
>>>   http://www.coi.gov.uk/guidance.php?page=188
>>>   <http://www.coi.gov..uk/guidance.php?page=188>  and we would very
>>>   much like to avoid doing anything that international colleagues
>>>   have already done, and to collaborate with others working on the
>>>   same subjects.  At present we are working on Search Engine
>>>   Optimization; Using mobile for marketing; Restructuring
>>>   information on the Web for re-usability (specific RDFa
>>>   implementations);  and 'Good YouTube'.
>>>   Although not standards-based, you might also be interested to know
>>>   that we've developed an interactive online usability toolkit
>>>   (including videos and elearning record) to help public service
>>>   workers develop good websites. It can be found at
>>>   http://www.coi.gov.uk/usability
>>>   5. Issues and Best Practices in Government Use of Social Media.
>>>   UK has issued propriety guidance and the summary guidance,
>>>   http://www.coi.gov.uk/guidance.php?page=264 ,  is being adopted
>>>   and adapted by several countries. We would be very happy to share
>>>   this and to improve our own guidance based on advice from others.
>>>   Kind regards to all,
>>>   David
>>>   David Pullinger
>>>   david.pullinger@coi.gsi.gov.uk <mailto:david.pullinger@coi.gsi.gov.uk>
>>>   Head of Digital Policy
>>>   Central Office of Information
>>>   Hercules House
>>>   7 Hercules Road
>>>   London SE1 7DU
>>>   020 7261 8513
>>>   07788 872321
>>>   Twitter #digigov and blogs:  www.coi.gov.uk/blogs/digigov
>>>   <http://www.coi.gov.uk/blogs/digigov>

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