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Re: Wiki edits on data.gov.*

From: Rinke Hoekstra <hoekstra@uva.nl>
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:01:26 +0200
Cc: Hugh Barnes <Hugh.BARNES@Communities.qld.gov.au>, eGov IG <public-egov-ig@w3.org>, Rachel Flagg <rachel.flagg@hud.gov>
Message-Id: <ACAE6851-48DC-48F1-A02B-1B47E36496D4@uva.nl>
To: Jose M. Alonso <josema@w3.org>
Hi Jose, Hugh,

About this snippet:

"If you have an existing Web site, and would like to make your XHTML  
information (say a table of figures) available as re-useable data,  
RDFa and GRDDL are two good approaches to use."

Considering the fact that both Google and Yahoo harvest embedded RDFa  
from webpages, I would suggest to emphasize RDFa as the preferred way  
of embedding (meta)data in existing XHTML. JSON is nice, but is really  
more of a separate syntax for serializing RDF-like information (as are  
the various different syntaxes for RDF).


On 29 jun 2009, at 12:22, Jose M. Alonso wrote:

> El 22/06/2009, a las 7:10, Hugh Barnes escribió:
>> Hi
>> I've made some edits and scribbled a few notes on the data.gov.*  
>> memo Jose started.[1]
> Thanks!
>> I'd like to take a step back and think about this structurally.  
>> What follows is some disjoint thoughts.
>> I think it will need to drill down to implementation specifics,  
>> though we can probably hide the details behind hyperlinks if that  
>> gets in the way of content flow.
> Although this is interesting, I wouldn't add the details in that  
> document. Those would be very likely the "Design Patterns for Open  
> Government Data" we mentioned a couple times before.
> I don't think we could hide them behind hyperlinks yet since it will  
> take us a while to get them done.
>> The sections I see at the moment are:
>> * make the case for doing it, and doing it properly - lots of  
>> explanations and examples of network effects and so on
>> * what to publish
>> * exploration of formats etc (how)
>> We could also cover each principle, followed immmediately by  
>> implementation advice.
> We probably need to think agin in terms of target audience. For me,  
> that document is not intended for implementors.
> I very much hope the ETF could come up soon with a "card" or  
> "template", as Rachel mentioned, that would need to be filled before  
> starting docs, stating intended audience among other things.
>> Knowing the difficulty many agencies have in adapting, the whole  
>> document should accept that interim and partial steps will be more  
>> likely to be followed, but also plot the roadmap from there to the  
>> ideal state. It should contain clear steps for different types of  
>> data and organisational capabilities. Linking to the planned "OGD  
>> patterns" resources might address this.
> Agree!
>> Lots of ways to cut this document. Would like to hear feedback on  
>> its current state and some of the ideas presented above.
> Yup... I hope others will send comments, too.
> I know ETF plans to take on Charter and White Paper as agreed with  
> Chairs but hope more people from IG comment on the content and ETF  
> could add this one to the list of deliverables soon.
> I think we should also set a deadline for comments for this document  
> and upcoming ones so ETF could take on those consistently after  
> deadlines.
> -- Jose
>> Cheers
>> Hugh Barnes
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>> [1] http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/index.php?title=Data-gov-memo&oldid=1404 
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