Re: CTRL+BACKSPACE or its equivalent behavior when deleting block elements

@Johannes: This came  up because we are revisiting  DELETE and FORWARD DELETE commands behavior in Edge. So I felt like bringing the findings to the editing community. I am not sure whether we should call this an attempt to standardize CE or not. At this point this is just pointing out non-interop and possibly, "buggy" behavior in browsers for different editing use cases.


@Chaals: In Edge, all of it is removed in 6 steps:


1st CTRL+BACKSPACE moves the caret at the end of the line above

2nd CTRL+BACKSPACE  removes the image

3rd CTRL+BACKSPACE does nothing

4th CTRL+BACKSPACE moves the caret at the end of the line above

5th CTRL+BACKSPACE removes sdsdsd

6th CTRL+BACKSPACE removes asdsad


The experience that I got in Chrome and FF on windows machine seems to differ from the one you described though:


Firefox(43.0.4):

1st CTRL+BACKSPACE removes the image and visually places the caret at the beginning of the very first line.

2nd CTRL+BACKSPACE  removes sdsdsd and places caret in front of asdsad

3rd CTRL+BACKSPACE removes asdsad


Chrome(48.0.2564.109 m)/Yandex:

1st CTRL+BACKSPACE removes the image and sdsdsd.

2nd CTRL+BACKSPACE  removes asdsad

--grisha


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From: johanneswilm@gmail.com <johanneswilm@gmail.com> on behalf of Johannes Wilm <johannes@fiduswriter.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 5:13:42 AM
To: Chaals McCathie Nevile
Cc: public-editing-tf@w3.org
Subject: Re: CTRL+BACKSPACE or its equivalent behavior when deleting block elements

Hey,
this sounds like a contenteditable=true issue. We originally moved on to work on other parts because the number of issues and inconsistencies of cE=true were so numerous that it did not seem solvable in the next decade.

But now it sounds as if there is some interest in trying to standardize it. Is that correct?

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Chaals McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru<mailto:chaals@yandex-team.ru>> wrote:
Hi,

On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 03:38:33 +0100, Grisha Lyukshin <glyuk@microsoft.com<mailto:glyuk@microsoft.com>> wrote:

Hello All,

There is a special behavior that is currently not interoperable between browsers for a specific use case below:

I think we should only delete one block element at a time when CTRL+BACKSPACE is pressed.

Chrome, FF and Edge all behave differently (sorry, I don't have Mac to test how Safari behaves).

Repro steps:

jsfiddle<https://jsfiddle.net/svn9Lztd/>

Place the caret in front of "def" and press CTRL+BACKSPACE

Opening this in Yandex.browser (blink-based), Safari and Firefox on mac, and pressing command-backspace, Firefox deleted everything in 4 steps, the other two in 5. (ctrl-backspace did nothing in FF and a normal backspace in the other two).

It seems Firefox deletes the paragraph when it removes the last thing in it, whereas the others remove the text node in a separate operation. What happened on windows? (I don't have a windows machine here to test...)

Cheers

Chaals

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