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RE: Start of profiles analysis page - 2nd reply

From: <Peter.Winstanley@gov.scot>
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 07:32:20 +0000
To: <mail@makxdekkers.com>, <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
CC: <public-dxwg-wg@w3.org>
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Hi Makx

This is a reasonable idea.  This is just like any schema, but it is also like other more human-friendly specs such as the XLSForm  used in e.g. OpenRosa (https://enketo.org/openrosa/)  where the specification is marked up in CSV/Excel (http://xlsform.org/)


From: Makx Dekkers [mailto:mail@makxdekkers.com]
Sent: 06 December 2017 22:43
To: kcoyle@kcoyle.net
Cc: Dataset Exchange Working Group
Subject: Re: Start of profiles analysis page - 2nd reply


As far as I understand it, DCAT also makes the distinction between the 'abstract' Dataset and the 'physical' Distribution as its manifestation.

Could an Application Profile be modeled as a Dataset? Or is that a dumb idea?




Op 6 dec. 2017 23:07 schreef "Karen Coyle" <kcoyle@kcoyle.net<mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net>>:

On 12/6/17 10:45 AM, mail@makxdekkers.com<mailto:mail@makxdekkers.com> wrote:
> Karen,
>> Not all access to APs will be through content negotiation, AFAIK, so we have to consider
>> other access avenues, such as a document at is located on a web site, profiles in wikis, etc.
> The expressions of the profile might be at
> http://example.org/profiles/xyz/profile.rdf

> http://example.org/profiles/xyz/profile.xml

> http://example.org/profiles/xyz/profile.json

> So it would be possible to access them without content negotiation. But I guess, we need to consider content negotiation because our deliverable is called "Content Negotiation by Application Profile"
>> If there is a "concept" AP it needs to be something that can be represented,
>> thus is not entirely abstract.
> In my mind, it *is* "abstract" in the same sense that FRBR Work is an abstract entity.

Makx, the FRBR work is proving to be very difficult to implement
precisely because it is so hard to be precise about an abstraction. If
the AP is "abstract" in that sense it has no actual existence in any
written or coded form, which means that it cannot be "converted" to rdf,
html, xml, or whatever. It is ethereal, an essentially non-existent as
any "thing". I don't know how we can work with such an entity.


> Makx.

Karen Coyle
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