Re: Post-mortem comment on ISSUE-179 - using DCAT namespace or not

+1 sounds appropriate to me.   If the wg chairs feel that need a vote, I propose we do this via email. 

Eric S
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> On Jan 25, 2016, at 5:18 AM, Riccardo Albertoni <albertoni@ge.imati.cnr.it> wrote:
> 
> Dear All, 
> 
> It seems to me that we have already taken a decision on that, a decision on which I fully agree ..   so
> 
> +1 to have  namespaces separated from DCAT and to delete the related note on dqv document.
> 
> Cheers, 
> Riccardo
> 
> 
>> On 22 January 2016 at 23:15, Eric Stephan <ericphb@gmail.com> wrote:
>> To establish a bit of a timeline, last October there was a very small contingency of folks including Antoine and myself on the October 16 WG call.  I don't believe it was a formal meeting that day and there wasn't a vote, but here [1] is the last discussion we had about not using DCAT as a namespace, from what I can tell.
>>     
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Eric S
>> 
>> Reference
>> [1]  https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Oct/0035.html 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Phil Archer <phila@w3.org> wrote:
>>> Thanks Antoine,
>>> 
>>> My understanding is that the WG resolved not to use the DCAT namespace for either vocabulary. I'd have difficulty finding the resolution itself but that is my clear memory. The rationale being that people didn't like having terms in a single namespace being defined in multiple documents.
>>> 
>>> If others have a different recollection, then of course I am ready to be corrected.
>>> 
>>> Phil.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 22/01/2016 16:34, Antoine Isaac wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> We didn't really conclude on my questions today, so I'm going to write
>>>> it down in an email, also to share with everyone else.
>>>> 
>>>> During the last F2F we discussed whether DQV and DUV should introduce
>>>> their elements in the DCAT namespace or their own. There was an issue,
>>>> 197, raised for it [1].
>>>> The resolution then was that "DUV begins to use the DCAT namespace, DQV
>>>> does not, but that both highlight this as an open issue that will lead
>>>> to a common way forward in future." [2]
>>>> 
>>>> Month after, DQV has a note about this:
>>>> [
>>>> The Working Group is considering putting all new classes and properties
>>>> defined in the DWBP Vocabularies in the DCAT namespace. As an attempt to
>>>> stimulate reactions which might help in taking a decision, the Dataset
>>>> Usage Vocabulary will be moved under the DCAT namespace. In case of
>>>> positive reactions to the DUV choice, the data quality vocabulary might
>>>> consider to go in the same direction.
>>>> ] [3]
>>>> 
>>>> But DUV went its own way and created its own namespace.
>>>> 
>>>> I believe that it's not a big problem. The discussion since then, and
>>>> the decision we made to publish DQV and DUV as notes (as opposed to
>>>> Recommendations) comfirms that we should have our own namespaces.
>>>> 
>>>> Still I prefer to ask everyone if:
>>>> - it's ok that we remove the note about ISSUE-179 in DQV
>>>> - we record a new resolution for ISSUE-179.
>>>> 
>>>> Any objection before I do this next week?
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Antoine
>>>> 
>>>> [1] https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/179
>>>> [2] http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-09-25#resolution_8
>>>> [3] http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html#namespaces
>>> 
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>>> 
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