Re: locale parameters suggestions

Hi Annette,

Thanks for your answer! Please see more comments below.

2016-08-10 0:01 GMT+02:00 Annette Greiner <amgreiner@lbl.gov>:

> Hi Berna,
>
> Good questions!
>
> I think metadata about locale parameters is something different from
> locale-neutral representations. We could add a comma between them (after
> the closing parenthesis) to make that more clear. Or we could change
> "metadata about locale parameters" to "locale parameter metadata".
>
I agree!  and I like the last proposal: use locale parameter metadata.

> I think the publisher has to do two different things, because the two are
> different. They have to check the metadata and see that locale parameters
> are there, and they also have to look at the data itself to see that
> locale-sensitive fields are represented in a locale-neutral format. Does
> that make sense?
>
Yes, it makes sense for me and I agree with you. However, I'm not convinced
that BP 3 is the place to talk about locale-neutral formats. IMO BP3 should
be about metadata rather than data. I think talking about locale-neutral
formats in BP3 may be confusing. Besides the test involves checking the
data rather than the metadata.

Maybe, locale-neutral formats should be discussed at Section 8.8 Data
Formats [1]. In this case, maybe we should add a new BP "Internationalize
your data using locale-neutral formats". I don't like the idea of creating
a new BP, but I'm afraid that this is a better solution. What do you think
about this?

Thanks again!
Berna

[1] https://www.w3.org/TR/dwbp/#dataFormats


> -Annette
>
> On 8/9/16 8:58 AM, Bernadette Farias Lóscio wrote:
>
> Hi Annette,
>
> Thanks a lot for your suggestion! I'd like to make just few questions:
>
> 1. When you say "Internationalize your data with metadata about locale
> parameters (date, time and number formats, language) and locale-neutral
> representations." it means that metadata are about locale parameters and
> locale-neutral representations? I understand that metadata is just about
> locale parameters. Is that correct? Could we say: "and use locale-neutral
> data representations."?
>
> 2. In the 'How to test section' of BP3 [1] we have three tests: the first
> two ones concern the use of locale parameters metadata and the third one is
> about the use of locale-neutral representations. My question is: the
> publisher have to do both things, i.e. to give metadata about locale
> parameters and use local-neutral representations, at the same time?
>
> cheers,
> Berna
>
> [1] http://agreiner.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#LocaleParametersMetadata
>
> 2016-08-06 1:28 GMT+02:00 Annette Greiner <amgreiner@lbl.gov>:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Here is a suggestion of the text for BP 3, if we were to try and add in
>> the information about locale-neutral formats. Besides changing the title
>> and subtitle, I changed the very beginning of the Why paragraph to use the
>> word "information" instead of "parameters". I removed the phrase suggesting
>> that people use CLDR to localize data, as that goes against the idea of
>> being locale neutral. I added a new paragraph just before EXAMPLE 3. I also
>> added a locale-neutral bit to the example and a test for locale neutrality.
>> This version also has the commit for the language tags.
>>
>> You can see the result at
>>
>> http://agreiner.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#metadata
>>
>>
>> --
>> Annette Greiner
>> NERSC Data and Analytics Services
>> Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
>>
>>
>>
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>
> --
> Bernadette Farias Lóscio
> Centro de Informática
> Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil
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> --
> Annette Greiner
> NERSC Data and Analytics Services
> Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
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Bernadette Farias Lóscio
Centro de Informática
Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil
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