Re: Call for comments on open questions about the audience for the DWBP doc

I agree with what you wrote Annette, but I'm still leaning toward brevity.
I could be persuaded to still include your added sentence as a footnote
somewhere in the document, because I like the tone of inclusiveness.


On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Annette Greiner <amgreiner@lbl.gov> wrote:

> I think this muddies the picture a little bit. If we hint that we are
> attempting to provide guidance to people other than publishers, then we
> need to explain that. (Who else? Why would I want to read it if I’m not a
> data publisher?)
>
> I’m fine with the simpler language, but I’ll offer this alternative to the
> alternative.
>
> This document provides guidance to those who publish data on the Web. The
> best practices are designed to meet the needs of information management
> staff, developers, and wider groups such as scientists interested in
> sharing and reusing research data on the Web. We encourage anyone involved
> in the data life cycle to become familiar with them, as today’s data
> consumers are tomorrow’s data publishers. Every attempt has been made to
> make the document as readable and usable as possible while still retaining
> the accuracy and clarity needed in a technical specification.
> --
> Annette Greiner
> NERSC Data and Analytics Services
> Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
> 510-495-2935
>
> On Jan 7, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Phil Archer <phila@w3.org> wrote:
>
> > I offer this:
> >
> > This document provides guidance primarily to those who publish data on
> the Web. The best practices are designed to meet the needs of information
> management staff, developers and wider groups such as scientists interested
> in sharing and reusing research data on the Web. Every attempt has been
> made to make the document as readable and usable as possible while still
> retaining the accuracy and clarity needed in a technical specification.
> >
> > Use/edit/discard at will
> >
> > Phil.
> >
> > On 07/01/2015 18:38, Annette Greiner wrote:
> >> +1 !!
> >> --
> >> Annette Greiner
> >> NERSC Data and Analytics Services
> >> Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
> >> 510-495-2935
> >>
> >> On Jan 7, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Laufer <laufer@globo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> +1
> >>>
> >>> abrcLau
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2015-01-07 11:50 GMT-02:00 Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I'm doing the updates on the document and I'd like to know your
> opinion about the text for the Audience section.
> >>>
> >>> After our last meeting, we got an agreement that the doc may have a
> primary and a secondary audience.However, I'm not sure if it is necessary
> to say this explicitly on the text.
> >>>
> >>> The current text is:
> >>> This document provides guidance to those who publish data on the Web,
> as well as those who consume data on the Web. These best practices have
> been written to meet the needs of many different audiences from developers
> and information management staff to scientists interested in sharing and
> reusing research data on the Web. Every attempt has been made to make the
> document as readable and usable as possible while still retaining the
> accuracy and clarity needed in a technical specification.
> >>>
> >>> I propose to change the first sentence to:
> >>> This document provides best practices to those who publish data on the
> Web.
> >>>
> >>> What do you think?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>> Bernadette
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2014-12-19 11:29 GMT-03:00 Makx Dekkers <mail@makxdekkers.com>:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Bernadette,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ø  I am still not convinced that the DWBP document is not interesting
> for re-users (already using the terminology presented by Makx) even if the
> scope is just BP for data publishers. If re-users will manipulate the data,
> don't you think that it will be good if they have some knowledge about the
> best practices used to create and publish the data?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> So let’s try to define ‘audience’. I think the ‘audience’ for the BP
> document is the group of people that we want to act on the best practice.
> In the BP document, we’re trying to tell data publishers to do things in a
> certain way.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This does not say that we’re not allowing anyone else, especially the
> data consumers; to read the document, but we’re not telling them to do
> anything themselves.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What will happen is that when data consumers read the document, they
> might note that a particular publisher does not follow best practice as
> described in the BP document. If that happens, they could contact the
> publisher and complain.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This is similar to the European Union’s Directive on the re-use of
> public sector information. That Directive tells public sector bodies what
> they MUST and MUST NOT do. Anyone who wants to re-use information can read
> the Directive and the national law that implements it and then complain if
> a particular public sector body does not adhere to the principles laid down
> in the Directive.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Makx.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Bernadette Farias Lóscio
> >>> Centro de Informática
> >>> Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Phil Archer
> > W3C Data Activity Lead
> > http://www.w3.org/2013/data/
> >
> > http://philarcher.org
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> > @philarcher1
> >
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