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Re: Some more examples done

From: Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 13:29:41 +0000
To: Newton Calegari <newton@nic.br>
Cc: Caroline Burle <cburle@nic.br>, Public DWBP WG <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>, Bernadette Farias Loscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>
Message-ID: <56619545.9080603@w3.org>
Real examples are better than fictional ones :-)

Actually, I looked again today and realise we really ought to talk about 
mycity.example.org, not mycity.gov.

I'm worried about having visible URLs being different from actual ones, 
if we can avoid that so much the better but I can see it may be the best 
solution.

Right now I'm trying to get a bit of scripting working before the meeting...

Phil.


On 04/12/2015 12:57, Newton Calegari wrote:
> Hi Phil,
>
> thanks for your contribution :-)
>
> To make the examples more practical, we would like to use “some real examples”, lke to make a dataset available, for instance.
>
> In the example you decied to use the URL http://data.mycity.gov/public-transport/road/bus/dataset/timetable.csv <http://data.mycity.gov/public-transport/road/bus/dataset/timetable.csv>, but we want to make possible to access the “timetable.csv” in the "http://w3.org/TR/dwbp/examples/data.mycity.gov/public-transport…timetable.csv”.
>
> Do you think if it is ok on using something like this, to make the dataset accessible:
> 	<a href=“http://w3.org/TR/dwbp/examples/data.mycity.gov/public-ransport/road/bus/dataset/timetable.csv”>http://data.mycity.gov/public-transport/road/bus/dataset/timetable.csv</a>
>
> The “visible link" will be different of the href.
>
> cheers,
> Newton
>
>> Em 03/12/2015, à(s) 15:35, Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br> escreveu:
>>
>> Hi Phil,
>>
>> Thanks a lot for your message and for your contribution!
>>
>> I've been spending some more time looking at the BP doc - it's looking better all the time.
>>
>> Thanks :)
>>
>> I know you've done a lot on it recently, so much so that I can't merge my changes. Don't care what people say, if 2 people are working on the doc at the same time, 99% of the time one of you is going to trash your local GH fork and start again. C'est la vie :-)
>>
>> Anyway, you can see what I've done at
>> http://philarcher1.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#DataIdentifiers <http://philarcher1.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#DataIdentifiers>
>>
>> The first two BPs there now have examples that build on the running example of My City data.
>>
>> Yes, it's gonna be difficult to merge because now I am reviewing the whole document and I'm trying to include more examples and the BP benefits. In this case, it's better if I include the examples that tou created on the version that I'm working now.
>>
>>
>> As a result of this, I've made a note that I'd really like to change the many instances of :dataset-001 to :timetable-001 (and equivalent changes throughout). This is because it makes more sense in the context of a persistent URI for the dataset.
>>
>> Yes! I like the idea! I'm gonna do this.
>>
>> I've also been working with Christophe on examples for the Data preservation section. See http://philarcher1.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#EvaluateCandD <http://philarcher1.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#EvaluateCandD>
>>
>> I have more I want to do tomorrow before the meeting but that's where I'm up to for now.
>>
>> Great Phil!  I am really happy with the examples.
>>
>>
>> I also want to update the SVG diagram and turn those lists of benefits into HTML/CSS rather than the current image.
>>
>> It sounds great! I used the png because I'm not really good with svg or CSS.
>>
>>
>> And those SVG icons for the benefits should, I think, be separate files and incorporated as <img src="....svg" rather than written inline, no?
>>
>> Yes! I'm gonna do this.
>>
>>
>> And, finally, native-speaker pedantry coming up...
>>
>> Trustworthy should really be "Trustworthiness" but that's very long. How about simply 'Trust'?
>>
>> And one more thing, 'Accessibility' at W3C usually refers to the accessibility of Web pages (WCAG and all that). Would you be OK with simply calling that benefit 'Access'?
>>
>> I think it's ok! I was not really happy with the use of "Accessibility". Let's use Access and wait for the feedback ;)
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Berna
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Phil.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Phil Archer
>> W3C Data Activity Lead
>> http://www.w3.org/2013/data/ <http://www.w3.org/2013/data/>
>>
>> http://philarcher.org <http://philarcher.org/>
>> +44 (0)7887 767755 <tel:%2B44%20%280%297887%20767755>
>> @philarcher1
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bernadette Farias Lóscio
>> Centro de Informática
>> Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil
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Phil Archer
W3C Data Activity Lead
http://www.w3.org/2013/data/

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