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Re: ISSUE-69: Do we include versioning in the bp doc? currently there are no use cases for it

From: Christophe Guéret <christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl>
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 13:45:37 +0100
Message-ID: <CABP9CAFkfFuk8hmrp-6YkMXSW6mxpyBjm_mxtMtQECf8Ez_L3A@mail.gmail.com>
To: Makx Dekkers <mail@makxdekkers.com>
CC: Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>, Christophe Gueret <christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl>, Ghislain Atemezing <auguste.atemezing@eurecom.fr>, "public-dwbp-wg@w3.org" <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
+1 to Bernadette too.

In fact, we can argue that a resource can be anything from a thing
(dataset, data point, city, ...), to an HTML representation of the
description of a thing to a CSV serialisation of a dataset.
It is merely an identifier for something that can be described in a
structured way. The issue is that the description can change over time
whereas the identifier itself should remain stable but we can probably fix
that with giving specific time-based identifiers to resources and relate
them with the time independent identifier of the resources.

Christophe


On 28 November 2014 at 13:40, Makx Dekkers <mail@makxdekkers.com> wrote:

> Bernadette,
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>
> Good point. In fact, an ontology is a type of dataset.
>
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>
> Makx.
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> *From:* Bernadette Farias Lóscio [mailto:bfl@cin.ufpe.br]
> *Sent:* Friday, November 28, 2014 1:24 PM
> *To:* Christophe Guéret
> *Cc:* Ghislain Atemezing; public-dwbp-wg@w3.org
> *Subject:* Re: ISSUE-69: Do we include versioning in the bp doc?
> currently there are no use cases for it
>
>
>
> Hello Christophe,
>
>
>
> I think it's gonna be easier if we don't make this difference. Then, in
> this case, we need to make clear that a resource may denote a dataset or a
> vocabulary. Do you agree?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bernadette
>
>
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> 2014-11-28 9:11 GMT-03:00 Christophe Guéret <
> christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl>:
>
> Hoi,
>
> Do we really need to make the difference between data/metadata and
> datasets/vocabularies to speak about versioning ?
>
> IMHO it would be best to just focus on versioning resource identifiers.
> Then a requirement on the design of identifiers to ensure they are
> version-proof would be sufficient.
>
> Christophe
>
>
>
> On 28 November 2014 at 13:00, Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>
> wrote:
>
> Hello Ghislain,
>
>
>
> Thanks for adding one more use case and also for this dicussion about
> versioning!
>
>
>
> In my opinion, versioning metadata should be provided both for datasets
> and vocabularies (ontologies). In the same way, it is important to have
> best practices for URI design that helps to deal with these different
> versions.
>
>
>
> However, it is not clear for me if the new requirement *R-VersionURIDesign*:
> “Data should have a canonical way to design URIs for different snapshot of
> the dataset.”  concerns versions of both (datasets and vocabularies).
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bernadette
>
>
>
> 2014-11-27 11:18 GMT-03:00 Ghislain Atemezing <
> auguste.atemezing@eurecom.fr>:
>
>
>
> Dear Data-web-lovers,
> [ My 2 cents to solve this issue... ]
>
> ISSUE-69: Do we include versioning in the bp doc? currently there are no
> use cases for it
>
> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/69
>
> I guess with the second round of UCs [1], we clearly identify that
> COMSODE's UC falls into versioning issue [2].
>
> I've just added a new UC regarding BBC's ontologies, available here [3]. I
> was looking for a requirement dealing with designing URIs and versioning,
> to (maybe) make use of the COMURI document.
>
> I've also proposed a new requirement *R-VersionURIDesign*?: “Data should
> have a canonical way to design URIs for different snapshot of the dataset.”
>
> Maybe I didn't check enough the document to find overlaps with existing
> requirements. If so, please thanks for pointing the right requirement.
>
> I hope these UCs will motivate the presence of including versioning in the
> bp document.
>
> Best,
> Ghislain
>
> [1] https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Second-Round_Use_Cases
> [2]
> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Second-Round_Use_Cases#Dataset_versioning_and_dataset_replication
> [3]
> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Second-Round_Use_Cases#BBC_ontology_versioning_and_Metadata
>
>
> --
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