Re: Data on the Web Life Cycle

Are we talking about open data or data on the web?  The charter is ambiguous on this point. 
 
Regards,

Steve


----- Original Message -----
From: Leigh Dodds [leigh@ldodds.com]
Sent: 03/24/2014 02:31 PM GMT
To: Steven Adler
Cc: Ig Ibert Bittencourt <ig.ibert@gmail.com>; Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>; public-dwbp-wg <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
Subject: Re: Data on the Web Life Cycle



I agree that defining license terms and specific licences is out of scope,
but I think that its a best practice to publish data with licensing
information clearly defined, in both a human and machine-readable form.
That can be captured and recommended without restricting to specific
licences.

I've done some work in this area already:

http://theodi.org/guides/publishers-guide-to-the-open-data-rights-statement-vocabulary
http://theodi.org/guides/odrs-reusers-guide

Data published without licensing isn't really fit for reuse as otherwise
you can't determine what is legally permitted.

L.




On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Steven Adler <adler1@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> From my humble point of view license terms are legal considerations and
> out of scope for this WG. Even insisting on defining license terms without
> specifying which licenses one may choose from is a policy decision and
> beyond the remit of W3C.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
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>
> *  From: *Ig Ibert Bittencourt [ig.ibert@gmail.com]
> *  Sent: *03/23/2014 02:40 PM ZW3
> *  To: *Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>
> *  Cc: *Steven Adler; "public-dwbp-wg@w3.org" <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
> *  Subject: *Re: Data on the Web Life Cycle
>
> Hi Bernadette,
>
> That`s great. I did not see that ....
>
> I agree with you that to announce new data set could defined as a BP.
> However, I am not sure about the license. It is an option when you publish
> your data on the web. On the other hand, if you want to consider the data
> as "open data", them this is mandatory.
>
> Best,
> Ig
>
>
> 2014-03-20 11:14 GMT-03:00 Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>:
>
>> Hi Ig,
>>
>> Thanks for your comments!
>>
>> The two activities that you suggested are presented as possible Best
>> Practices (in the end of the slides). When I was describing the life cycle,
>> I was in doubt if they should be classified as activities or BP. In the
>> end, I made the choice for describing them as BP, once I consider that they
>> are "something that should be done"  instead of "something that must be
>> done". However, I think this is worth a deeper discussion :)
>>
>> Best regards!
>> Bernadette
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-18 20:31 GMT-03:00 Ig Ibert Bittencourt <ig.ibert@gmail.com>:
>>
>> Hi Bernadette,
>>>
>>> Great work. I really like the spiral proposal for Data on the Web Life
>>> Cycle. I believe this proposal complements the document about BP for
>>> Publishing LD [1].
>>>
>>> I would like to recommend to take into account two activities:
>>>
>>>    1. To specify the license applied to the data and
>>>    2. To announce the new data set.
>>>
>>> I think this Spiral life cycle can really guide us to see the big
>>> picture of Best Practices from a publisher perspective.
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/NOTE-ld-bp-20140109/
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ig
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-18 18:35 GMT-03:00 Steven Adler <adler1@us.ibm.com>:
>>>
>>> Bernadette,
>>>>
>>>> This is really helpful and I think we can refer to this as we explore
>>>> the use cases together.  Nice work!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> Motto: "Do First, Think, Do it Again"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  From: Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br> To: "
>>>> public-dwbp-wg@w3.org" <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org> Date: 03/18/2014 01:43
>>>> PM Subject: Data on the Web Life Cycle
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to share some of my thoughts about the process of publishing
>>>> and using data on the Web with you. I prepared some slides that describe
>>>> the "Data on the Web Life Cycle", which presents the main tasks and
>>>> activities performed during that process.
>>>>
>>>> I also tried to exemplify some possible Data on the Web Best Practices,
>>>> according to the proposed tasks.
>>>>
>>>> As proposed by Yaso in our last meeting, I think that organizing the
>>>> process in tasks (or steps) may help the identification of possible best
>>>> practices.
>>>>
>>>> This is just a preliminar version! If these ideas make sense to you,
>>>> then I can also create a wiki page to help the collaborative work.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sending both ppt and pdf versions. Please feel free to add comments
>>>> or make suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Bernadette
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bernadette Farias Lóscio
>>>> Centro de Informática
>>>> Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil
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>>>> [attachment "Data on the Web Life Cycle.pdf" deleted by Steven
>>>> Adler/Somers/IBM] [attachment "Data on the Web Life Cycle.pptx" deleted by
>>>> Steven Adler/Somers/IBM]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Ig Ibert Bittencourt
>>> Professor Adjunto III - Universidade Federal de Alagoas (UFAL)
>>> Vice-Coordenador da Comissão Especial de Informática na Educação
>>> Líder do Centro de Excelência em Tecnologias Sociais
>>> Co-fundador da Startup MeuTutor Soluções Educacionais LTDA.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bernadette Farias Lóscio
>> Centro de Informática
>> Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil
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>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Ig Ibert Bittencourt
> Professor Adjunto III - Universidade Federal de Alagoas (UFAL)
> Vice-Coordenador da Comissão Especial de Informática na Educação
> Líder do Centro de Excelência em Tecnologias Sociais
> Co-fundador da Startup MeuTutor Soluções Educacionais LTDA.
>



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