Re: BP Guidelines

I like 3.  Simpler to create, understand, and perform.


Best Regards,

Steve

Motto: "Do First, Think, Do it Again"



From:
Phil Archer <phila@w3.org>
To:
Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br>
Cc:
Steven Adler/Somers/IBM@IBMUS, "public-dwbp-wg@w3.org" 
<public-dwbp-wg@w3.org>
Date:
07/11/2014 08:53 AM
Subject:
Re: BP Guidelines



This looks like real progress, thanks, especially Bernadette for getting 
a hold of things and working on the structure.

Picking up on that structure and Steve's idea of a rating scheme, I 
wonder whether it might be possible to extend the 'how to' sections into:

1. what you must do as a minimum;
2. what you can do with modest extra effort to do better;
3. the best way to do it.

That's only three levels (roughly equating to RFC 2119 MUST, SHOULD and 
MAY) but it might be sufficient? Coming up with 5, or 7 levels of 
implementation might be a tall order?

Not all BPs are going to have any kind of granularity, it might just be 
the MUST and that's it, you MUST. But where there is gradation, OK, 
people like to see a path they can follow.

Phil.



On 11/07/2014 02:31, Bernadette Farias Lóscio wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I made some changes on the Best Practices Guidelines wiki page [3].
> Following Antoine's suggestion, instead of having general and specific 
best
> practices, now we have just best practices.
>
> I also included a terminology section with definitions (from DCAT [1] 
and
> the Linked Data Glossary [2]) for the main concepts used in the best
> practices .  I think it is really important that we have an agreement 
about
> these concepts and it would be great to have some feedback about this.
>
> Please feel free to modify or include new definitions, suggestions or
> questions.
>
> kind regards,
> Bernadette
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/
> [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/ld-glossary/
> [3] https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Best_practices_guidelines
>
>
>
> 2014-07-04 10:59 GMT-03:00 Eric Stephan <ericphb@gmail.com>:
>
>> Replying to the questions you posed Steve:
>>
>> 1.  Are worst practices always the absence of a specific or generic 
best
>> practice?
>>
>> Worst practices might also include misinterpretations of the best
>> practices (I suppose examples need to be supplied here to support these 
two
>> additional proposed "worst practices":
>> *  Altered best practice:  Either misinterpreted best practice or
>> intentionally altering best practice leading to syntactically confusing
>> solutions that don't align with the Open Data community.
>> *  Failure to serve data consumer communities:  Best practice(s) that
>> support well formed "Open Data", but fail to provide valid solutions 
for
>> downstream that are useful to downstream consumer communities.
>>
>>
>> 2.  Do we have use case examples of worst or absent practices?
>>
>> Yes, in fact I'm wondering if we could take the challenges section in 
many
>> of the use cases and use them as examples of worst/absent practices.
>>
>>
>> 3.  Could we think about a maturity scale of practices from 0 to 5 or 7 
so
>> as to provide users with an understanding of where they are today and 
what
>> they need to do to improve?
>>
>> This is a great idea.
>>
>> Eric Stephan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 6:14 AM, Steven Adler <adler1@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Great effort.  Some random thoughts and comments:
>>>
>>> 1.  Are worst practices always the absence of a specific or generic 
best
>>> practice?
>>>
>>> 2.  Do we have use case examples of worst or absent practices?
>>>
>>> 3.  Could we think about a maturity scale of practices from 0 to 5 or 
7
>>> so as to provide users with an understanding of where they are today 
and
>>> what they need to do to improve?
>>>
>>> See this as an example of what I mean.  This is the IBM Data 
Governance
>>> Maturity Model my Council of 55 companies created in 2006-11.  It has 
11
>>> categories and many sub categories over 5 levels of maturity.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It is all Open Source today, and you can click on any of the links 
here
>>> to see the underlying content.
>>>
>>> http://www.infogovcommunity.com/blog/classification-metadata/
>>>
>>> You have to register on the site to see this, but everyone can use
>>> anything here for our BP work.  This goes farther that technical BP, 
but it
>>> is not specific to Data Governance and we may find many examples here 
we
>>> can re-use.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> Motto: "Do First, Think, Do it Again"
>>>
>>>
>>>   From: Bernadette Farias Lóscio <bfl@cin.ufpe.br> To: "
>>> public-dwbp-wg@w3.org" <public-dwbp-wg@w3.org> Date: 06/11/2014 11:05 
PM
>>> Subject: BP Guidelines
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I created a new wiki page [1] with some guidelines that may help us
>>> define the structure of the Best Practices document. This page also 
shows
>>> an attempt to map the use case requirements to possible best 
practices.
>>>
>>> I'd like to ask you to take a look and if possible to give some 
feedback.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>> Bernadette
>>>
>>> [1] *https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Best_practices_guidelines*
>>> <https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Best_practices_guidelines>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bernadette Farias Lóscio
>>> Centro de Informática
>>> Universidade Federal de Pernambuco - UFPE, Brazil
>>> 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

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