- From: Makx Dekkers <mail@makxdekkers.com>
- Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2015 23:11:24 +0100
- To: 'Christophe Guéret' <christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl>, "'Dan Brickley'" <danbri@google.com>
- Cc: "'Ralph Swick'" <swick@w3.org>, <public-dwbp-comments@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <004001d05791$51f1f430$f5d5dc90$@makxdekkers.com>
-1 from me. If we want to give a reference to material that explains the concept of metadata more in detail, maybe we could refer to http://www.niso.org/publications/press/UnderstandingMetadata.pdf. Makx. De: Christophe Guéret [mailto:christophe.gueret@dans.knaw.nl] Enviado el: 05 March 2015 17:21 Para: Dan Brickley CC: Ralph Swick; public-dwbp-comments@w3.org Asunto: Re: "metadata" as "data about data" Hi Dan, Thanks for this! Funny thing is that I was sitting in a meeting with KOS people today and when I asked them to comment on our document they also pointed out that this definition of metadata would not fit everyone. They also said we should have a definition for data but that's a different story... So +1 to update the draft, and reference to this old spec for the source. Regards, Christophe -- Sent with difficulties. Sorry for the brievety and typos... Op 5 mrt. 2015 15:38 schreef "Dan Brickley" <danbri@google.com <mailto:danbri@google.com> >: re http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-dwbp-20150224/#metadata Congratulations on your new Working Draft. Just a brief point as I begin to work through the doc... I'd like to suggest that you consider recycling an old sentence from the early RDF '97-9 work, which addresses up front the awkwardness inherent in defining "metadata" as "data about data": """The distinction between "data" and "metadata" is not an absolute one; it is a distinction created primarily by a particular application, and many times the same resource will be interpreted in both ways simultaneously.""" One of RDF's strengths is that it works at both these levels. While the dwbp doc's scope goes beyond RDF, I think the insight in that old paragraph from the first RDF Recommendation remains relevant. Currently you write "Metadata is data about data." as well as "A metadata document must be published together with the data"; taken together this makes the distinction seem more clear-cut than it often seems in practice. cheers, Dan (*) context: http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-rdf-syntax-19990222/ "The World Wide Web was originally built for human consumption, and although everything on it is machine-readable, this data is not machine-understandable. It is very hard to automate anything on the Web, and because of the volume of information the Web contains, it is not possible to manage it manually. The solution proposed here is to use metadata to describe the data contained on the Web. Metadata is "data about data" (for example, a library catalog is metadata, since it describes publications) or specifically in the context of this specification "data describing Web resources". The distinction between "data" and "metadata" is not an absolute one; it is a distinction created primarily by a particular application, and many times the same resource will be interpreted in both ways simultaneously."
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