Fwd: aria-describedat

	So everyone, what do you think?  See the below email George sent.  Is there anything Wiley, Safari or some other publisher can say to help keep ARIA.describedAt on the table for ARIA 1.1?  Maybe we can talk about this in this morning meeting in 2 hours?

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Charles LaPierre

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> From: George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com>
> Subject: FW: aria-describedat
> Date: June 18, 2015 at 1:18:38 PM PDT
> To: Markus Gylling <markus.gylling@gmail.com>, Avneesh Singh <avneesh.sg@gmail.com>, Richard Orme <rorme@outlook.com>, Charles LaPierre <charlesl@benetech.org>, Matt Garrish <matt.garrish@bell.net>, Daniel Weck <daniel.weck@gmail.com>, Mark Hakkinen <markku.hakkinen@gmail.com>
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> Dear Markus, Charles, Matt, Richard,  Avneesh and Daniel,
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> Below is the message from Rich about describedat.
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> So, he is not looking at the browser folks, but publishers. He wants to know which publishers intend to use this. If no confirmations, it is going to be taken out of the ARIA spec.
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> It looks like we would need to get publishers who are part of the W3C to come forward. I suspect we could also encourage our DAISY Members (republishers) to come forward.
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> Love to hear your thoughts.
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> Best
> George
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> From: Richard Schwerdtfeger [mailto:schwer@us.ibm.com <mailto:schwer@us.ibm.com>]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:54 AM
> To: George Kerscher; janina@rednote.net <mailto:janina@rednote.net>
> Cc: PF; SVG WG; public-dpub-aria@w3.org <mailto:public-dpub-aria@w3.org>; cooper@w3.org <mailto:cooper@w3.org>; jbrewer@w3.org <mailto:jbrewer@w3.org>; Markus Gylling
> Subject: aria-describedat
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> George, Janina,
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> As you know, we put aria-describedat in the ARIA 1.1 spec., however the caviat for it staying was that we see adequate support from a number of key publishers that they would commit to using it if we actually kept it in the specification. This was months ago. Janina had promised me that after I came back from vacation that we would see something either way from publishers. I have been back two weeks now and there has been no movement.
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> At this point I am trying to lock down the ARIA 1.1 specification so that we can work on ARIA 2.0 which will address critical features such as extensibility and greater support for web applications. Also, the group has additional modules in development for digital publishing and graphics that are coming in parallel that are taxing people's time.
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> So, allowing for possible mis-communications between PF and the publishers I am going to give to mid-August to see a strong response from publishers. If we do not see it I am going to propose that aria-describedat be removed from the ARIA 1.1 specification.
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> Rich
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> Rich Schwerdtfeger
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