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Re: [humanitarian-ict] emergency expertise

From: <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:11:11 +0700
Message-ID: <c09b00eb0801280411n15b92676l6ae5d5cad9c4d745@mail.gmail.com>
To: humanitarian-ict@yahoogroups.com, "W3C Ontology List Disaster Management" <public-disaster-management-ont@w3.org>, "person-ontology@idcommons.net" <person-ontology@idcommons.net>
Zahir
 the status is: approved  (last time I looked).

This means we have to get started. I have been hammering this list since I
got on it about it, (you can check my posts from day one ad nauseam)-
because I am sure that opern source community at large can benefit from such
guidelines should an emergency occur anyday.

Eventually I was glad to connect up with related W3c members who share an
understanding and appreciation for semantic consistency across distributed
information systems

I am now working on related efforts and will be happy to share my
contribution anytime. It would be be helpuf Zahir, if you could join that
group too  and provide some orientation towards 'requirements'
what would you find helpful for us to produce?  it would be nice to have
everybody's input towards specifications there...
Look forward
cheers
PDM


On Jan 28, 2008 3:06 PM, Zahir Koradia <zahir.koradia@gmail.com> wrote:

>   Hi Paola,
> I had come across the page related to the w3c incubator group you are
> talking about. I think it is a great effort would like to know the
> status of if. Once we have a well defined set of "standard"
> terminologies I would be interested in using them to build tools
> useful for my organization (Focus India). In fact it would be
> appropriate for Sahana to shift to the standard terminologies too.
>
> Zahir
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2008 10:45 AM, <paola.dimaio@gmail.com<paola.dimaio%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > HI Don
> > thanks a lot
> > sorry my earlier question was not so clear, (in the tunnel)
> >
> > at this stage, I am working from the vocabulary view point, so I am
> leading
> > the exercises in identifying
> > which words better identify the fields that we are trying to target
> > this is the job of the ontologist, and the effort that we are starting
> with
> > the w3c incubator
> >
> > I rely on domain experts like you to help me identify such domains in
> the
> > appropriate level of detail, and
> > considering different persperctives someone in a differnet country or
> from a
> > different community may apply a different structure/vocabulary to
> identify
> > the same concepts that you address below, but thats okay, because I am
> > aggregating them and normalizing them
> >
> > Such specifications already exists, and I need different levels of
> > granularity and various perspectives
> > I am extracting them and making them publicly available as 'rfilters so
> > that anyone can parse whatever information databases they have to sort
> the
> > results according to the desired match.
> >
> > these are called schemas
> > they hang from other, existing people schemas
> >
> > I am currently aggregating them, so anything that you have that can be
> > shared, it will be collated with
> > other stuff that everyone else is collating, so that i can be parsed and
> > queried according to the user defined logic
> >
> > I think we have a page on the ews wiki somewhere
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Paola
> > foafx
> >
> >
> > On Jan 28, 2008 11:57 AM, donc <donc@internode.on.net<donc%40internode.on.net>>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > assume I needed to put together a global emergency management
> > > > task force, what people would I be looking to hire> how would
> > > > I group/classify them? do you have a list? can you put one
> > > > together for us>
> > >
> > > Hi Paola,
> > >
> > > OK - Your original question was not so precise.
> > >
> > > My previous post highlighted generic skills and qualifications
> required of
> > > an Emergency Incident Controller. This person would be the leading
> member
> > of
> > > your 'task force' and you should be able to ascertain specific skill
> > > requirements by working backwards through the referenced Emergency
> > > Management degree and other training curriculum. You would also factor
> > > Incident Control System (ICS) pre-requisites although remember ICS and
> > NIIMS
> > > etc. are only two of numerous emergency management standards globally
> > > deployed. On the world stage of disasters there are quite a few
> variations
> > > to recognised emergency managemenent policies and procedures. One
> > important
> > > localle-specific pre-requisite for your task group team leader (IC) is
> > > extensive knowledge of relevent local statutes and other legislative
> > > requirements and empowerments.
> > >
> > > Other professional members of your task group would likely include
> people
> > > versed in the following disciplines:
> > >
> > > - Disaster & Emergency Response Planning, Pre-Planning and Scenario
> > > Development (Planning Officer)
> > > - Operational Response Manager (Operations Officer)
> > > - Logistics and Supply Chain Management (Logistics Officer)
> > > - Humanitarian Welfare Management (Welfare Officer)
> > > - Administrative Management (management support and strategic
> intelligence
> > > gathering - Management Support Officer)
> > > - Inter-Agency and other organisational liaison (Liaison Officer)
> > > - Avionics Air Traffic Control (Air Controller)
> > > - Informations and Communications Systems (Communications Officer)
> > > - Various Incident-specific Operational Commanders to act in the
> capacity
> > of
> > > Division and Sector Commanders depending on the scale and scope of
> your
> > > disaster. These people would be specific "Incident Experts" trained in
> > > response management during floods, fires, earthquakes, evacuations and
> > civil
> > > evacuee camp management, civil and public disorders, volcanic
> eruptions
> > etc.
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > I don't know of any single person who would begin to profess expertise
> in
> > > all emergency management disciplines so you will probably need to
> conduct
> > > considerable research to achieve your stated objectives - to be honest
> I'm
> > > not even sure it's possible at this point in time.
> > >
> > > Don
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: humanitarian-ict@yahoogroups.com<humanitarian-ict%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > [mailto:humanitarian-ict@yahoogroups.com<humanitarian-ict%40yahoogroups.com>]
> On Behalf Of
> > > paola.dimaio@gmail.com <paola.dimaio%40gmail.com>
> > >
> > > Sent: Monday, 28 January 2008 1:29 PM
> > > To: humanitarian-ict@yahoogroups.com<humanitarian-ict%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [humanitarian-ict] emergency expertise
> > >
> > > HI Donc
> > >
> > > thanks for reply, not this is not what I am looking for
> > >
> > > I need a list of Skills required in emergency management, possibly
> > > categorized Also, In my experience from other fields, categorization
> can
> > be
> > > done in different ways and it can be cross referenced (thats the
> ontology
> > > part)
> > >
> > > I am now looking to put together the knowledge base
> > >
> > > I can find this if I start looking for it, but I suspect you may have
> this
> > > info at hand or at least I can pickle your brain for it for example
> > >
> > > say, for each
> > >
> > > mitigation, preparedness, response and recovery
> > >
> > > what skills poeple have or must learn?
> > >
> > > assume I needed to put together a global emergency management task
> force,
> > > what people would I be looking to hire> how would I group/classify
> them?
> > > do you have a list? can you put one together for us>
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > On 1/28/08, donc <donc@internode.on.net <donc%40internode.on.net>>
> wrote:
> > > > > I am not sure if pointers to resources have been made available
> > > > > before are there some standard categories for expertise in em?
> > > >
> > > > Hi Paola,
> > > >
> > > > It largely depends how far you wish to take your studies in this
> > > > subject -
> > > >
> > > > University degrees in Emergency Management have learning outcomes
> > > > (KLA's) similar to the following (ref: Charles Sturt university
> > > > Bachelor of Social Science (Emergency Management) BSocSc(EmergMgt):
> > > >
> > > > Emergency Management
> > > > The Emergency Management subjects incorporate knowledge and
> > > > understanding of the planning, operational and recovery principles
> and
> > > > practices associated with the management of emergencies.
> > > >
> > > > Social Sciences
> > > > The core subjects of Foundations of Psychology and Introductory
> > > > Sociology provide the basis for studies in this area. Emphasis in
> the
> > > > first of these subject areas will be on the application of
> psychology
> > > > to the human services, while in sociology, the acquisition of
> > > > knowledge and understanding of social issues (e.g. gender,
> ethnicity)
> > will
> > > be the focus of attention.
> > > > These subjects will provide the foundation for the study of
> Psychology
> > > > of Stress and Trauma, Social Research and Community Analysis.
> > > >
> > > > Human Resource Management and Management The subjects in this key
> > > > learning area are designed to provide emergency management
> > > > practitioners with the knowledge and skills associated with the
> > > > management of human resources and general management concepts and
> > > > principles. The subjects in this sequence cover topics ranging from
> > > > organisational behaviour, the role of the human resource manager and
> > > > the processes of training and development in organisations.
> > > >
> > > > To gain a degree in Emergency Management from CSU requires the
> > > > satisfactory completion of 20 related subjects. In my experience
> this
> > > > is about typical for degrees in EM. I should note that within the EM
> > > > profession a degree is generally regarded as only the starting point
> > > > for students to be supplemented by several years further industry
> > > > training and field experience. This is usually fulfilled by EM orgs
> > > > that have a "graduate intake programme' (large fire, rescue or
> police
> > > services etc.).
> > > >
> > > > Alternatively, most larger national and international Emergency
> > > > Service organisations provide training to staff and volunteers
> lacking
> > > > tertiary quals in EM, and in some cases are themselves accredited
> > > > National Training Providers (able to give diploma's, degrees and
> other
> > > > world-recognised quals in Emergency Management). In Australia these
> > > > tend to follow national guidelines for Emergency Management and the
> > > > delivery of training as provided by EMA and State Training
> Accreditation
> > > authorities.
> > > >
> > > > To be considered well-versed in the social and physical sciences of
> EM
> > > > also requires considerable practical experience - Something of a
> > > > truism within the profession is that EM cannot really be taught; it
> must
> > > be lived.
> > > >
> > > > Rgds, Don
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > >
> > > > From: humanitarian-ict@yahoogroups.com<humanitarian-ict%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > [mailto:humanitarian-ict@yahoogroups.com<humanitarian-ict%40yahoogroups.com>]
> On Behalf Of
> > > > paola.dimaio@gmail.com <paola.dimaio%40gmail.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, 28 January 2008 4:03 AM
> > > > To: humanitarian-ict@yahoogroups.com<humanitarian-ict%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: [humanitarian-ict] emergency expertise
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I am not sure if pointers to resources have been made available
> before
> > > > are there some standard categories for expertise in em?
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > School of IT
> > > > www.mfu.ac.th
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