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Re: [AGENDA] W3C Credentials CG Call Tue, November 6th, 12 noon EST, 9 AM PST

From: Jordan, John CITZ:EX <John.Jordan@gov.bc.ca>
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 06:08:24 +0000
To: Sam Chase <samantha@venn.agency>, Joe Andrieu <joe@legreq.com>
CC: W3C Credentials CG <public-credentials@w3.org>, "public-digital-verification@w3.org" <public-digital-verification@w3.org>, "ChristopherA@lifewithalacrity.com" <ChristopherA@lifewithalacrity.com>, kim <kim@learningmachine.com>, "joe@joeandrieu.com" <joe@joeandrieu.com>
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Hi Sam …

Here is a link to our “full” standard set of slides … https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hElPRysMq7oAhIGVRgRLYiKpHTfqcbS_

At about Slide 24 is a sequence of slides that are like a flipbook motion of a verifiable credential exchange between an issuer and a holder. This is followed by a sequence of holder to verifier. The credential is not specifically labelled so you can say what it is … identity attributes, proof of bank account or whatever … in the end its verifiable data. This is what most people will experience in some form or another if this path of technological change comes to fruition. This exchange of credentials is a mental model people are generally familiar if you draw their attention to their current day to day experience using their physical cards and so forth.

To explain the role of blockchain, for a simple high level explanation I simple say it is like a large public key ring of “public keys” .. these public keys are discoverable because they all have a unique address. This was not previously possible these public keys were not discoverable or only discoverable when controlled by a single entity like a govt or certificate authority. You can say that the crypto needs these public keys to work (you need a public and private) and this satisfies most people. We don’t explain MAC address resolution, DNS resolution and so forth to help people use a web browser so diving into DIDs and DID docs and so forth is likely a rabbit hole to stay out of.

If you think there is some use in some of these slides then feel free to use them as you see fit.


From: Sam Chase <samantha@venn.agency>
Date: Monday, November 5, 2018 at 9:15 PM
To: Joe Andrieu <joe@legreq.com>
Cc: W3C Credentials CG <public-credentials@w3.org>, "public-digital-verification@w3.org" <public-digital-verification@w3.org>, "ChristopherA@lifewithalacrity.com" <ChristopherA@lifewithalacrity.com>, kim <kim@learningmachine.com>, "joe@joeandrieu.com" <joe@joeandrieu.com>
Subject: Re: [AGENDA] W3C Credentials CG Call Tue, November 6th, 12 noon EST, 9 AM PST
Resent-From: <public-credentials@w3.org>
Resent-Date: Monday, November 5, 2018 at 9:14 PM

Hi everyone,

I've been invited to speak at the VR, Privacy & Identity Summit taking place at Stanford this Thursday. A specific brief was not forthcoming until this evening, and I've just learned that in my 5 minutes I need to explain to a non-technical audience "that there is a way to store identity in a blockchain that several big companies are already committed to working on."

This means what I've prepared about SSI is too technical, and too far-ranging conceptually, and I need some 11th hour help! If you can, I'd really appreciate any succinct ways the group has of summarizing SSI/DID that I could inject into my presentation.

I currently have Drummond's slides from the SSI meetup and have been slicing it all down. The argument I was trying to make in my previous slides was "Understanding identity in context is key to solving privacy issues in virtual spaces." Here are my slides<https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1OeZmP7-1tvhAyTF2gQItle1lKxlxvh3kk56k82KsMS0/edit?usp=sharing>. Because there are only 5 minutes I may have to lose some of my privacy stuff and focus on getting the attention of the big fish towards SSI as it's currently developing and how it can assist a post GDPR landscape and evolve and solve identity management problems.

If there is time on the call maybe we can have an explain off and see who can word SSI the best in under two minutes! 😛 I'll buy beers for best 🍺

Sam Chase
Co-Founder & CEO, Venn.Agency
The Intelligent Edge
Phone: 323-740-9425  Linkedin

On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 4:13 PM Joe Andrieu <joe@legreq.com<mailto:joe@legreq.com>> wrote:

TL;DR: What’s after TPAC/IIW


Tuesday, November 6th, 2018

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  1.  IP Note: Anyone can participate in these calls. However, if you have not agreed to the groups IP policy, we cannot consider substantive contributions. (1 minute)
  2.  Queuing in IRC (2 minute)

     *   We use IRC to queue speakers during the call as well as to take minutes
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  1.  Connections Check & Scribe Selection (3 minutes)

.   Scribe List:


4.   Agenda Review (2 minutes)

5.   Introductions & Reintroductions (4 minutes) (see scribe doc for reintroduce column)

6.   Announcements & Reminders (5 minutes)

a.   W3C Workshop on Strong Authentication & Identity -- December 10th-11th, Redmond, WA https://www.w3.org/Security/strong-authentication-and-identity-workshop/

b.   RWOT VII -- Feb 27-Mar 1 2019, Location TBD


7.   Progress on Current Action Items (5 min)


8.   Status of Work Items (5 min)


9.   TPAC Report Out (10 min)

10.  IIW Report Out (10 min)

11.  DIDs Unique Selling Proposition (10 min)

— W3C-CCG Co-Chairs: Christopher Allen, Kim Hamilton Duffy & Joe Andrieu

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