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Dereferencing, Re: Jotting down some discussion topics

From: Marcos Caceres <marcos@marcosc.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 21:07:41 -0400
Message-ID: <CAAci2aAh9_Pr2Vt2dCraLjWrub695z08y8isWrUNLP4R0die0w@mail.gmail.com>
To: Peter Krautzberger <peter.krautzberger@mathjax.org>, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Cc: Michael Smith <mike@w3.org>, W3C Digital Publishing IG <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
Thanks Ivan, these notes are great.

However, I'd like to nip the following on the bud right now because I
worry about where the following could go:

> Because this is a URL, we will have to define what is returned by a server if that URL is dereferenced.

We won't actually: if a URL uses the http/https protocol (or a URL
scheme that Fetch understands), and the request is a known HTTP method
verb, and performed in terms of fetch, then Fetch defines what should
be expected by the client: a Response, with a mime type and other
helpful HTTP headers.

Thus, I would urge us to immediately stop using the legacy concept of
"dereference", as it's no longer part of the fetch lexicon (or part of
the Web Platform at all) - and can be extremely confusing as in
reality it has little baring on the behavior of clients that fetch
requests - and servers that serve responses.

Kind regards,
Marcos


On September 20, 2016 at 5:59:15 PM, Ivan Herman (ivan@w3.org) wrote:
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> > On 20 Sep 2016, at 08:50, Peter Krautzberger wrote:
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> > This link works better for me https://github.com/w3c/dpub-pwp-ucr/wiki/Jotting-down-ideas-for-the-discussions-@-TPAC-F2F-on-%3F%3F-Web-Publications
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> I am sorry. You're right
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> Ivan
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> >
> > Peter.
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> > On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Ivan Herman > wrote:
> > Trying to help getting the discussion later today I tried to jot down some directions
> that we discussed yesterday. Nothing final, nothing complete of course
> >
> > Here is the URL (it is a wiki on the UCR github):
> >
> > https://github.com/w3c/dpub-pwp-ucr/wiki/Jotting-down-ideas-for-the-discussions-@-TPAC-F2F-on-%3F%3F%3F-publications
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> > Ivan
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> > Digital Publishing Lead
> > Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/
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> Ivan Herman, W3C
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