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From: Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 12:44:42 +0000
To: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
CC: Ben De Meester <ben.demeester@ugent.be>, W3C Digital Publishing IG <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <7CB8A176-1BB9-4445-A299-D66BF1B3AE74@adobe.com>
Why does the specification only concern itself with the client?   We are describing a processor – where that processor lives should not be relevant.  BUT since we are describing a client-side design, we should also be providing for a server-side one as well.

I do agree with you that the model/nature of the server-side PWP processor is different than the client side – which is why we need to describe it!   And it is more than just server-side configuration, it would be actual code running on the server.   Which is perfectly acceptable, even if you don’t want it for your own setups.


From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org<mailto:ivan@w3.org>>
Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 12:46 AM
To: Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com<mailto:lrosenth@adobe.com>>
Cc: Ben De Meester <ben.demeester@ugent.be<mailto:ben.demeester@ugent.be>>, W3C Digital Publishing IG <public-digipub-ig@w3.org<mailto:public-digipub-ig@w3.org>>
Subject: Re: [dpub-loc] meeting

On 9 Mar 2016, at 00:55, Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com<mailto:lrosenth@adobe.com>> wrote:

I am not fine with it.   A PWP Processor could be either client or server or both.  It needs to be clear that our design supports all of these modes.

We have discussed this and we seem to be in a disagreement.

A possible PWP specification describes, normatively, the behaviour of what happens on the client side. That is the PWP processor there. It should not describe/prescribe what happens on the server side. It may provide possible alternatives on how the information, as described *for the PWP Client side processor*, can be provided, it can provide good practices and examples, server configurations, etc, but it has a fundamentally different nature than the client side specification. Calling that server side a PWP processor would be misleading and, imho, wrong.

We have a PWP Client Process, and we may have some best practices for server setup.



From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org<mailto:ivan@w3.org>>
Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 at 12:08 PM
To: Ben De Meester <ben.demeester@ugent.be<mailto:ben.demeester@ugent.be>>
Cc: W3C Digital Publishing IG <public-digipub-ig@w3.org<mailto:public-digipub-ig@w3.org>>
Subject: Re: [dpub-loc] meeting
Resent-From: <public-digipub-ig@w3.org<mailto:public-digipub-ig@w3.org>>
Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 17:09:12 +0000

On 7 Mar 2016, at 15:08, Ben De Meester <ben.demeester@ugent.be<mailto:ben.demeester@ugent.be>> wrote:

Hi all,

The next locators TF meeting will be on March 9th at 1500 UTC [1]

I have made a first draft of the locators work until now (http://w3c.github.io/dpub-pwp-loc/), basically combining all text that we already agreed on, and adding issues where consensus is to be reached.


Most important change between what we discussed until now and the doc is that I currently call the Server-side PWP processor just the `server`, to (try to) avoid confusion. So a PWP processor is always assumed client-side. If there are any suggestions for better naming, please let me know :).

I am, personally, fine with this...


* Going over currently open issues of the doc, finding new issues.

It would be great if we could use the github issue-system (https://github.com/w3c/dpub-pwp-loc/issues) to open new issues, so any comments on the doc: please open a new github issue! :)

Actually, I think we should "transfer" the issues listed in the document into the github issue list; it would help us to manage them. That could also help in reducing the big rosy blobs in the current document by just, essentially, referring to the issues in github, thereby making the document more readable…

If you agree, I may find some time tomorrow doing this. Unless you beat me into it:-)


Kind regards, and hear you on Wednesday!

[1] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=DPUB+Locators&iso=20160309T15<http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=DPUB+Locators&iso=20160210T15>

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