Re: [dpub-loc] 20160217 minutes

Agreed.

From: Romain <rdeltour@gmail.com<mailto:rdeltour@gmail.com>>
Date: Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 12:41 PM
To: Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com<mailto:lrosenth@adobe.com>>
Cc: Daniel Weck <daniel.weck@gmail.com<mailto:daniel.weck@gmail.com>>, "DPUB mailing list (public-digipub-ig@w3.org<mailto:public-digipub-ig@w3.org>)" <public-digipub-ig@w3.org<mailto:public-digipub-ig@w3.org>>
Subject: Re: [dpub-loc] 20160217 minutes


On 18 Feb 2016, at 18:33, Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com<mailto:lrosenth@adobe.com>> wrote:

But a dumb server would never return such a payload – it doesn’t know how to do that!

I never said that payload would be dynamically generated. Think of a static HTML file with link elements. Or a static JSON document.
If the user uploads these on a static file hosting service, the server will absolutely know how to return them!


Remember, a dumb server is one that cannot be configured in any way – it only works with what it gets “out of the box”.  If you can configure it in any way, then it’s smart.

Given a dumb server (domain.com<http://domain.com>, in Daniel’s example) and the following URLs from Dan’s example:
"packed": "https://domain.com/path/to/book1.pwp",
"unpacked”: "https://domain.com/another/path/to/book1/"

Then referencing the packed URL will return the full data of the PWP in whatever format that ends up (eg. ZIP).

Yes.

 Referencing the unpacked URL will either return a catalog of the directory or an error – depending on the configuration of the server.

Yes, or a default document (like 'index.html')

In NEITHER case will you get an HTML doc or a JSON doc.

No, but if you upload a static doc (JSON or HTML) at the canonical URL, then the server will return it accordingly.

Romain.


Leonard

From:  Romain <rdeltour@gmail.com<mailto:rdeltour@gmail.com>>
Date: Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 10:29 AM
To: Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com<mailto:lrosenth@adobe.com>>
Cc: Daniel Weck <daniel.weck@gmail.com<mailto:daniel.weck@gmail.com>>, "DPUB mailing list (public-digipub-ig@w3.org<mailto:public-digipub-ig@w3.org>)" <public-digipub-ig@w3.org<mailto:public-digipub-ig@w3.org>>
Subject: Re: [dpub-loc] 20160217 minutes


On 18 Feb 2016, at 13:39, Leonard Rosenthol <lrosenth@adobe.com<mailto:lrosenth@adobe.com>> wrote:

If you have a dumb server (eg. a static file hosting service) - how do you get the “explicit links in the GET answer”?

By having links in the payload, mostly. Be it an HTML doc with link elements, or a JSON doc (like in Daniel's example).

Romain.