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Re: HTML-Note and bibliographies

From: Shane McCarron <shane@spec-ops.io>
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 05:06:22 -0500
Message-ID: <CAJdbnOA7NFP6ME_BR95NLswKW2fpgjxYRcSvWf9yDr3Zg8heoQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Cc: Liam Quin <liam@w3.org>, W3C Digital Publishing IG <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
In short: yes.  At least, that's my vision.

Something as simple as:

note { vertical-align: super; font-size:80%; }

would achieve what you were talking about.  However, I think I would also
propose that the default presentation for note is equivalent to the default
presentation for <sup> anyway...  Since that is typically what is expected.

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 4:54 AM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:

>
> On 26 Apr 2016, at 11:04, Shane McCarron <shane@spec-ops.io> wrote:
>
> And that wouldn't be a problem at all in the model I proposed.  Use
> @type="1" and *poof* - arabic numbers.  Different groups for different
> numbering sequences if you like.
>
>
> There is a more general question, then. Is there an easy *and standard*
> way to access the number from CSS? Ie, something using note:before, a
> standard class with a spam, something like that. If that is the case, then
> I can control whether the arabic number would appear as superscript.
>
> (I was really reacting on Liam's comment that the value in the title
> cannot have markup, ie, <sup>)
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 2:38 AM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 26 Apr 2016, at 01:40, Shane McCarron <shane@spec-ops.io> wrote:
>>
>> Comments inline:
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Liam R. E. Quin <liam@w3.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 2016-04-25 at 12:07 -0500, Shane McCarron wrote:
>>> > There was a question in the meeting today about whether a
>>> > bibliography
>>> >
>>> [...]
>>> >    - If "type" is empty for a note, then prefer its title attribute
>>> > for
>>> >    display value
>>>
>>> In general it's poor design to take text content from attributes,
>>> because that precludes having markup (e.g. if a bibliographic reference
>>> italicizes "et al." in the list of authors or puts a journal volume
>>> number in bold, or has Japanese ruby annotations). So I'm a little wary
>>> of this. See [Quin, Rueben, Io _et. al_, 1984_b_] for details :-).
>>>
>>
>> Yeah - I am aware of this (obviously).  But I don't really have a good
>> alternative that would be both flexible AND easy to use.  The title
>> attribute accommodates popular citation styles (e.g., APA).   Do you have
>> an alternate suggestion?
>>
>>
>> Well… I have seen bibliographies in history (my wife is a historian)
>> where the citation mark is an arabic number in superscript:-(
>>
>> Ivan
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