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Re: HTML-Note and bibliographies

From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 11:54:52 +0200
Cc: Liam Quin <liam@w3.org>, W3C Digital Publishing IG <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
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To: Shane McCarron <shane@spec-ops.io>

> On 26 Apr 2016, at 11:04, Shane McCarron <shane@spec-ops.io> wrote:
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> And that wouldn't be a problem at all in the model I proposed.  Use @type="1" and *poof* - arabic numbers.  Different groups for different numbering sequences if you like.

There is a more general question, then. Is there an easy *and standard* way to access the number from CSS? Ie, something using note:before, a standard class with a spam, something like that. If that is the case, then I can control whether the arabic number would appear as superscript.

(I was really reacting on Liam's comment that the value in the title cannot have markup, ie, <sup>)

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> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 2:38 AM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org <mailto:ivan@w3.org>> wrote:
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>> On 26 Apr 2016, at 01:40, Shane McCarron <shane@spec-ops.io <mailto:shane@spec-ops.io>> wrote:
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>> Comments inline:
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>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Liam R. E. Quin <liam@w3.org <mailto:liam@w3.org>> wrote:
>> On Mon, 2016-04-25 at 12:07 -0500, Shane McCarron wrote:
>> > There was a question in the meeting today about whether a
>> > bibliography
>> >
>> [...]
>> >    - If "type" is empty for a note, then prefer its title attribute
>> > for
>> >    display value
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>> In general it's poor design to take text content from attributes,
>> because that precludes having markup (e.g. if a bibliographic reference
>> italicizes "et al." in the list of authors or puts a journal volume
>> number in bold, or has Japanese ruby annotations). So I'm a little wary
>> of this. See [Quin, Rueben, Io _et. al_, 1984_b_] for details :-).
>> 
>> Yeah - I am aware of this (obviously).  But I don't really have a good alternative that would be both flexible AND easy to use.  The title attribute accommodates popular citation styles (e.g., APA).   Do you have an alternate suggestion?
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> Well… I have seen bibliographies in history (my wife is a historian) where the citation mark is an arabic number in superscript:-(
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