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Re: FW: Proposal: remove aria-describedat from the ARIA 1.1 specification

From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 15:03:16 +0000
Message-ID: <CA+ri+Vme7wSERtT2JB3h5E5jAcyAULii_gTqjepwxxGHJMBcfA@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Gunderson, Jon R" <jongund@illinois.edu>
Cc: Chaals McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, Shane McCarron <shane@aptest.com>, "W3C WAI Protocols & Formats" <public-pfwg@w3.org>, "public-digipub-ig@w3.org" <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
>
> <img scr=”my-imag.png” alt=”short description of image”>
>
>   Long description of image ….  Including tables and iframes
> </img>


Hi Jon, I am sure that getting this implemented by browsers would be a non
starter.

but this can be done to acheive the same

<details>
>   <summary><img src="
> http://www.html5accessibility.com/images/HTML5_Logo.png"
> alt="HTML5"></summary>
>   <p>HTML5 logo: Shaped like a shield with the text 'HTML' above and the
> numeral '5' prominent on the face of the shield.</p>
>   </details>
>

http://codepen.io/stevef/pen/XmoqqZ


details/summary works in chrome/safari/opera currently


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Regards

SteveF
Current Standards Work @W3C
<http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2015/03/current-standards-work-at-w3c/>

On 13 November 2015 at 14:42, Gunderson, Jon R <jongund@illinois.edu> wrote:

> Charles and Steve,
>
>
>
> If we want native semantics let’s ask the HTML5 working group to modify
> the IMG element to allow the IMG element to act like SUMMARY/DETAILS
> elements.
>
>
>
> If an IMG element can be a container for other content (e.g. including
> iframes to shared long descriptions) then the markup becomes much simpler
> and testable by evaluation tools.  All this talk about creating links and
> flowto’s is going to be very prone to errors and just plain being
> overlooked.
>
>
>
> If the IMG element contains content it would get the same “twisty” the
> SUMMARY/DETAILS elements get if the IMG element contains any content.
>
>
>
> <img scr=”my-imag.png” alt=”short description of image”>
>
>   Long description of image ….  Including tables and iframes
>
> </img>
>
>
>
> This approach makes it easier for everyone, but especially authors.
>
>
>
> Jon
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, November 13, 2015 4:35 AM
> *To:* Chaals McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
> *Cc:* Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>; Shane McCarron <shane@aptest.com>;
> W3C WAI Protocols & Formats <public-pfwg@w3.org>; public-digipub-ig@w3.org
> *Subject:* Re: FW: Proposal: remove aria-describedat from the ARIA 1.1
> specification
>
>
>
>
>
> On 13 November 2015 at 10:32, Chaals McCathie Nevile <
> chaals@yandex-team.ru> wrote:
>
> Also, why not use a pair of HTML links, which provide bidirectional
> relationships for the Web and work for all users?
>
>
>
> I couldn't agree more, we should be using standard HTML, which works for
> all users, wherhever we can.
>
>
> --
>
> Regards
>
> SteveF
>
> Current Standards Work @W3C
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