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Re: FW: Proposal: remove aria-describedat from the ARIA 1.1 specification

From: Chaals McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 11:32:08 +0100
To: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>, "Steve Faulkner" <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Cc: "Shane McCarron" <shane@aptest.com>, "W3C WAI Protocols & Formats" <public-pfwg@w3.org>, "public-digipub-ig@w3.org" <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:16:00 +0100, Steve Faulkner  
<faulkner.steve@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have created a demo making use of aria-flowto: and  
> aria-label=Description
> with group=role to give an idea of how it may work if an identifying role
> is added. It primarily demonstrates the utility of aria-flowto in  
> providing
> a bi-directional relationship between 2 objects in the DOM.

WHich is useful, but what is the implementation status of flowto?

Also, why not use a pair of HTML links, which provide bidirectional  
relationships for the Web and work for all users?

The only obvious use case I see for flowto is multiple-headed links, a la  
Xlink. But does that work anywhere?

cheers

> http://s.codepen.io/stevef/debug/PPXZWY
>
> code view: http://codepen.io/stevef/pen/PPXZWY
>
> --
>
> Regards
>
> SteveF
> Current Standards Work @W3C
> <http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2015/03/current-standards-work-at-w3c/>
>
> On 12 November 2015 at 15:05, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote:
>
>> Preponderance of opinion on the Dpub-ARIA call is for a main role, as it
>> should be generally available, not just in epubs.
>>
>> Expect a conversation about this on today's ARIA call starting at 12:30
>> Boston (17:30 UTC).
>>
>> Janina
>>
>> Shane McCarron writes:
>> > Sure.  A "main" role or a "doc-" role?  Since this is (actually) a
>> > mainstream problem, a "main" role seems more sensible to me.  That  
>> and a
>> > technique for guidance and call it a day?
>> >
>> > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 5:50 AM, Steve Faulkner <
>> faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > On 12 November 2015 at 11:48, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>  
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> It was proposed (during PF this week) that a simple ARIA role could
>> > >> trigger notification for AT users, and could trigger CSS to show  
>> the
>> non
>> > >> AT user that a description is available.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > > sounds reasonable
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > >
>> > > Regards
>> > >
>> > > SteveF
>> > > Current Standards Work @W3C
>> > > <
>> http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2015/03/current-standards-work-at-w3c/>
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Shane McCarron
>> > Managing Director, Applied Testing and Technology, Inc.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Janina Sajka,   Phone:  +1.443.300.2200
>>                         sip:janina@asterisk.rednote.net
>>                 Email:  janina@rednote.net
>>
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>>
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>>
>>


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