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RE: FW: Proposal: remove aria-describedat from the ARIA 1.1 specification

From: Schnabel, Stefan <stefan.schnabel@sap.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 08:17:56 +0000
To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
CC: Shane McCarron <shane@aptest.com>, Chaals McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>, W3C WAI Protocols & Formats <public-pfwg@w3.org>, "public-digipub-ig@w3.org" <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
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From the reference given one could have the impression only Firefox with IA2 supports flowto/flowfrom relationships.

According to https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc848874%28v=vs.85%29.aspx, this support is also present in Internet Explorer.

Is it so? Does Jaws also support flowto when using Internet Explorer?

Best Regards

From: Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com]
Sent: Donnerstag, 12. November 2015 16:16
To: Janina Sajka
Cc: Shane McCarron; Chaals McCathie Nevile; W3C WAI Protocols & Formats; public-digipub-ig@w3.org
Subject: Re: FW: Proposal: remove aria-describedat from the ARIA 1.1 specification

I have created a demo making use of aria-flowto: and aria-label=Description with group=role to give an idea of how it may work if an identifying role is added. It primarily demonstrates the utility of aria-flowto in providing a bi-directional relationship between 2 objects in the DOM.


code view: http://codepen.io/stevef/pen/PPXZWY



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On 12 November 2015 at 15:05, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>> wrote:
Preponderance of opinion on the Dpub-ARIA call is for a main role, as it
should be generally available, not just in epubs.

Expect a conversation about this on today's ARIA call starting at 12:30
Boston (17:30 UTC).


Shane McCarron writes:
> Sure.  A "main" role or a "doc-" role?  Since this is (actually) a
> mainstream problem, a "main" role seems more sensible to me.  That and a
> technique for guidance and call it a day?
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 5:50 AM, Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com<mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > On 12 November 2015 at 11:48, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net<mailto:janina@rednote.net>> wrote:
> >
> >> It was proposed (during PF this week) that a simple ARIA role could
> >> trigger notification for AT users, and could trigger CSS to show the non
> >> AT user that a description is available.
> >>
> >
> > sounds reasonable
> >
> > --
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > SteveF
> > Current Standards Work @W3C
> > <http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2015/03/current-standards-work-at-w3c/>
> >
> --
> Shane McCarron
> Managing Director, Applied Testing and Technology, Inc.

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