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Re: FW: Proposal: remove aria-describedat from the ARIA 1.1 specification

From: Richard Schwerdtfeger <schwer@us.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 10:17:37 -0600
To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Cc: Chaals McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>, "public-digipub-ig@w3.org" <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>, "W3C WAI Protocols & Formats" <public-pfwg@w3.org>, Shane McCarron <shane@aptest.com>
Message-ID: <OFDCBCEC4F.743E00BD-ON86257EFB.0059756A-86257EFB.005980E6@us.ibm.com>

Why would we put a role in the label?

A Description is a role.


Rich Schwerdtfeger



From:	Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
To:	Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
Cc:	Shane McCarron <shane@aptest.com>, Chaals McCathie Nevile
            <chaals@yandex-team.ru>, "W3C WAI Protocols & Formats"
            <public-pfwg@w3.org>, "public-digipub-ig@w3.org"
            <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
Date:	11/12/2015 09:18 AM
Subject:	Re: FW: Proposal: remove aria-describedat from the ARIA 1.1
            specification



I have created a demo making use of aria-flowto: and aria-label=Description
with group=role to give an idea of how it may work if an identifying role
is added. It primarily demonstrates the utility of aria-flowto in providing
a bi-directional relationship between 2 objects in the DOM.

http://s.codepen.io/stevef/debug/PPXZWY

code view: http://codepen.io/stevef/pen/PPXZWY

--

Regards

SteveF
Current Standards Work @W3C

On 12 November 2015 at 15:05, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote:
  Preponderance of opinion on the Dpub-ARIA call is for a main role, as it
  should be generally available, not just in epubs.

  Expect a conversation about this on today's ARIA call starting at 12:30
  Boston (17:30 UTC).

  Janina

  Shane McCarron writes:
  > Sure.  A "main" role or a "doc-" role?  Since this is (actually) a
  > mainstream problem, a "main" role seems more sensible to me.  That and
  a
  > technique for guidance and call it a day?
  >
  > On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 5:50 AM, Steve Faulkner <
  faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
  > wrote:
  >
  > >
  > > On 12 November 2015 at 11:48, Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
  wrote:
  > >
  > >> It was proposed (during PF this week) that a simple ARIA role could
  > >> trigger notification for AT users, and could trigger CSS to show the
  non
  > >> AT user that a description is available.
  > >>
  > >
  > > sounds reasonable
  > >
  > > --
  > >
  > > Regards
  > >
  > > SteveF
  > > Current Standards Work @W3C
  > > <
  http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2015/03/current-standards-work-at-w3c/>
  > >
  >
  >
  >
  > --
  > Shane McCarron
  > Managing Director, Applied Testing and Technology, Inc.

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