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Re: [latinreq] Footnotes and columns

From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:41:56 +0100
Cc: Dave Cramer <Dave.Cramer@hbgusa.com>, W3C Digital Publishing IG <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
Message-Id: <69104F09-6282-454D-9437-5920A63B065A@w3.org>
To: Liam Quin <liam@w3.org>

On 19 Dec 2013, at 24:15 , Liam R E Quin <liam@w3.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 16:39 -0500, Cramer, Dave wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>> How do you place footnotes in multi-column text? I've seen the
>> following:
>> 
>> [1] Footnotes placed in same column as reference, at bottom of page
>> [2] Footnotes placed in same column as reference, at bottom of column
>> (if the column is short, the footnote will not be near the bottom of
>> the page)
>> [3] Footnotes in two-column layout placed only at bottom of right-hand
>> column
>> [4] Footnotes placed in region that spans all columns of page (so
>> footnotes are 1-column even if text is multi-column).
> 
> [5] Footnotes placed in region that spans all columns of page, but which
> itself multi-column (not necessarily same number of columns as the
> body).
> 
> I put some footnote examples up a few years ago for XSL-FO work:
> https://www.w3.org/Style/XSL/Group/2008/06/footnote-examples/

Wow. There are more than I imagined:-(

Ivan


> 
> At that time we agreed some of them were not in scope for our work: you
> still need to solve the underlying problems of course, but not
> necessarily with exactly the same layout. But that was for XSL-FO and
> not CSS.
> 
>> I'm especially interested in what happens when columns are short,
>> uneven, or if the column count changes on a page.
> 
> Uneven, 2 common cases:
> 1. there's a single footnote area spanning all the columns, just as tall
> as the biggest stack of notes.
> 2. per-column footnote areas, as in e,g,
> https://www.w3.org/Style/XSL/Group/2008/06/footnote-examples/pages/Kieckhefer-ForbiddenRites-276/
> 
> 
> If the column-count changes, sometimes you "empty out" all footnotes in
> the middle of the page, so they are really end-notes for a section.
> Otherwise, the number of columns in the footnote area doesn't need to
> relate to the number of columns in the body.
> 
>> I'm also curious how common it is to set footnotes in multiple columns
>> when the body text is a single column.
> 
> Very common in humanities academic publishing I think, where you have a
> lot of short footnotes.
> 
> https://www.w3.org/Style/XSL/Group/2008/06/footnote-examples/pages/Charles-II-Pseudepigrapha-Ahikar-745/
> also shows two levels of footnotes - per column, and per page.
> 
> Liam
> 
> 
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