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Re: [latinreq] Footnotes and columns

From: Jean Kaplansky <Jean.Kaplansky@aptaracorp.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 03:50:33 +0530
To: "Cramer, Dave" <Dave.Cramer@hbgusa.com>, W3C Digital Publishing IG <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <CED78117.39D9B%jean.kaplansky@aptaracorp.com>
Iíve seen most of the above.

Back in my pica stick and calculator days, footnote placement was very much determined by book designers and publishers on a project by project basis.

Back in my FOSI writing days, footnote placement was determined by the capability of Arbortextís TeX publishing engine and the FOSI spec.

I think some of the rules are genre based and much of this is determined by how you scope the footnote in relation to the callout. Some publishers are adamant that a footnote must appear at the bottom of the column in which the callout appears.

RE: [1] & [2]: Rules about short columns depend on whether the design includes column balancing and spread balancing, too. Iíve seen scholarly articles go both ways Ė right up under the short column, and at the bottom of the column regardless of the presence of a short column. Sometimes this is dictated by a limitation of a publishing engine Ė for example, in some layout engines, you canít just switch layouts on the fly, so you get a choice, bottom of column or bottom of column on page.

RE: [3] This one I have not seen. I donít think it would ever be considered a best practice, since the potential for a callout to appear in any column before the last column would be awkward.

RE: [4] I can say that the instance of what to do with a footnote on a page that change from 2 columns to 3 columns to 1 column to 2 columns or some other permutation is an edge case in my experience working on scholarly journals.

I have also seen instances of double column footnotes on single column pages. This usually happens when there are so many footnotes to fit on a page that the double column approach makes sense. I think Iíve seen these primarily in legal texts like books of statutes and the like. Itís been a while, so pardon my dusty memory.

Hope this helps.

From: <Cramer>, Dave <Dave.Cramer@hbgusa.com<mailto:Dave.Cramer@hbgusa.com>>
Date: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 at 4:39 PM
To: DPUB <public-digipub-ig@w3.org<mailto:public-digipub-ig@w3.org>>
Subject: [latinreq] Footnotes and columns
Resent-From: DPUB <public-digipub-ig@w3.org<mailto:public-digipub-ig@w3.org>>
Resent-Date: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 at 4:39 PM

Hi Everyone,

How do you place footnotes in multi-column text? I've seen the following:

[1] Footnotes placed in same column as reference, at bottom of page
[2] Footnotes placed in same column as reference, at bottom of column (if the column is short, the footnote will not be near the bottom of the page)
[3] Footnotes in two-column layout placed only at bottom of right-hand column
[4] Footnotes placed in region that spans all columns of page (so footnotes are 1-column even if text is multi-column).

I'm especially interested in what happens when columns are short, uneven, or if the column count changes on a page.

I'm also curious how common it is to set footnotes in multiple columns when the body text is a single column.



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