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RE: [metadata] FYI: BIBTEX Update at the LoC

From: AUDRAIN LUC <LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr>
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 14:49:47 +0100
To: Tim Clark <tim_clark@harvard.edu>, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
CC: W3C Digital Publishing IG <public-digipub-ig@w3.org>
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As book publishers, we use ONIX for Books metadata to distribute on all the supply chain, physical and digital.
It covers almost all of our needs or we work  at EDItEUR to improve this schema.

All of what Eric Miller says is relevant to our present concerns, noticeably around networking Works and Contributors.
We find here suitable international standards as ISNI for Authors, but not yet for Works as ISTC failed.

Best,
Luc AUDRAIN
Hachette Livre, Head of Digitalization

De : Tim Clark [mailto:tim_clark@harvard.edu]
Envoyé : jeudi 5 décembre 2013 14:09
À : Ivan Herman
Cc : W3C Digital Publishing IG
Objet : Re: [metadata] FYI: BIBTEX Update at the LoC

Agree this effort  is entirely and importantly relevant, and there are others such as CiTO the citation ontology,  as well.  I actually don't see any particular separation - there is a minimum an intersection.

If you look at scientific journal publishing, what is the difference between bibliographic info at publisher's website and at for example, NLM (National Library of Medicine)?

NLM has in addition to the "pure" bibliographic metadata, a lot of search-oriented stuff like MeSH terms; the abstracts; and interesting sort of "hidden" metadata like "most similar to what other publications".

No doubt publishers have a lot of process-oriented metadata, and there is likely other stuff I know nothing about.  But at least there is an important intersection set between libraries and publishers. Front matter of books always have ISBN, LOC or Brit Lib catalog number, etc. and you can expand out on common stuff from there.

Tim Clark

Director, Biomedical Informatics Core, Massachusetts General Hospital
Instructor in Neurology, Harvard Medical School



On Dec 5, 2013, at 7:44 AM, Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org<mailto:ivan@w3.org>> wrote:


I am not sure this is directly relevant to the Metadata Task Force discussion, but it may be of interest nevertheless:

http://www.loc.gov/bibframe/media/updateforum-nov22-2013.html

contains a fairly long video on LoC's BIBTEX initiative. Yes, it is library metadata, not publishers' metadata, but I guess one of the challenges in general is how to bring those together.

Eric Miller, who is one of the developers (and, actually, who led the Semantic Web Activity at W3C until 2007) makes a very high level case for the usage of a BIBTEX-like structure (starting around 49:00 in the video). His talk lacks technical details for my taste, but I guess that was the nature of the audience...

Ivan

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