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Re: Network info API

From: <Frederick.Hirsch@nokia.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:54:50 +0000
To: <mounir@lamouri.fr>, <public-device-apis@w3.org>
CC: <Frederick.Hirsch@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <E712077C-50D0-4375-8199-54C16EB0D949@nokia.com>
Mounir

Thanks for following up on the Network Information API.

I think it might make sense to update the Network Information API draft as part of publishing it as a Note. 

Weve had a lot of discussion on the list, along with proposals, all of which seem to be in agreement that bandwidth in the current draft is problematical. If we do not change this, every time someone looks at the Note to see what happened they will revisit it and likely not remember the discussions.

Id prefer to see us adopt a proposed change that we have rough agreement on and then publish it as a Note, reflecting the latest thinking.

Concretely, maybe we should update to the proposal http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2013Dec/0003.html and then publish as a Note (which in the status can point to the email thread 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2013Dec/0001.html

(the alternative is to simply publish a note shelving the current work as we did for the other specs recently. However,  indicating in the status section the recent discussion might be as  much work as updating the draft)

Thoughts, all? 

regards, Frederick

Frederick Hirsch, Nokia
Chair, W3C DAP Working Group





On Feb 12, 2014, at 9:38 AM, ext Mounir Lamouri <mounir@lamouri.fr> wrote:

> On Sat, 1 Feb 2014, at 8:35, Marcos Caceres wrote:
>> Hi,  
>> So, I'm still not sure how we should proceed with the Net Info stuff. On
>> the Mozilla side, we are keen to at least put forward a new spec.
>> However, we don't want to waste anyone's time (including our own) doing
>> that unless other implementers think this is worth while. 
>> 
>> I guess if we don't hear anything within the next week or two we will
>> shelve the idea.  
> 
> Hi,
> 
> There is some interest in Chromium/Blink to implement something similar
> to NetInfo [1] [2]. However, this is still controversial and even in the
> Chromium/Blink community, it is not clear that there is much consensus
> regarding how to tackle that problem.
> 
> Mozilla's new proposal is basically NetInfo v1 with a change event
> (surprising that NetInfo v1 didn't had one...). The proposal sent to
> blink-dev [2] is actually not that different. However, it is not clear
> that this will be implemented for the Web Platform. As mentioned in [1]
> this proposal is to implement the feature in Blink for Chrome Apps only
> to start with.
> 
> For what I understand, no one likes the current specification (even
> Mozilla who first pushed for it) but I do not see a serious counter
> proposal that everybody is happy with. I would recommend that we shelve
> the current specification. If Mozilla and Chromium ends up implementing
> something similar and have good feedback, I am pretty sure that someone
> will step up to write a new specification but I am not really seeing
> that happening in a near future so I would not recommend to work on
> another specification before we get a clear and strong consensus behind
> it.
> 
> [1]
> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/blink-dev/R5yYtHEPiw4/HFQxExIiQ1oJ
> [2]
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mh3uqyiCntp38jDcoECvKLyy0F1UIZPFafI2N910IQI/edit
> 
> Cheers,
> --
> Mounir
> 
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