# Device APIs Working Group Teleconference

## 26 Sep 2013

[Agenda][3]

See also: [IRC log][4]

## Attendees

Present

    Anssi_Kostiainen, Cathy_Chan, Dominique_Hazael-Massieux, Frederick_Hirsch,
Lisa_DeLuca, Giri_Mandyam

Regrets

    Josh_Soref, Jean-Claude_Dufourd

Chair

    Frederick_Hirsch

Scribe

    fjh

## Contents

  * [Topics][5]

    1. [Welcome, agenda review, scribe selection, announcements][6]

    2. [Minutes approval][7]

    3. [Proximity and Light][8]

    4. [Vibration][9]

    5. [Network Service Discovery][10]

    6. [Network Information API][11]

    7. [Actions][12]

    8. [Other Business][13]

    9. [Adjourn][14]

  * [Summary of Action Items][15]

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<trackbot> Date: 26 September 2013

<scribe> ScribeNick: fjh

### Welcome, agenda review, scribe selection, announcements

Network Service Discovery WD published 24 Sept, [http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-
discovery-api-20130924/][16]

### Minutes approval

Approve minutes from 19 September 2013

[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-
apis/2013Sep/att-0035/minutes-2013-09-19.html][17]

**RESOLUTION: Minutes from 19 September 2013 are approved**

### Proximity and Light

CR transition was approved for proximity and light

fjh: CR transition was approved for light and proximity

… question came up regarding names in proximity, DeviceProximity ,
UserProximity

[https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/dap/raw-file/default/proximity/Overview.html][18]

… question as to whether names are appropriate or possible to change

… should it be distance or object sensed

fjh: is there a usability concern, does it affect implementations

anssik: naming needs to be consistent with events and all the way through, has
been implemented

dom: yes, need feedback from Mozilla re how widely this is used, whether
change is possible

<scribe> **ACTION:** fjh to ask on list regarding proximity naming question
[recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2013/09/26-dap-minutes.html#action01][19]]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-661 - Ask on list regarding proximity naming
question [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2013-10-03].

fjh: we've agreed to publish CR then if we need to make change can loop back
to LC if needed

... next step is publication request, drafts are ready I believe

anssik: yes they are ready

<scribe> **ACTION:** fjh to make publication request for Light and Proximity
[recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2013/09/26-dap-minutes.html#action02][20]]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-662 - Make publication request for light and
proximity [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2013-10-03].

### Vibration

issue-146?

<trackbot> issue-146 -- Add vibration strength control -- open

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/146][21]

ISSUE-149?

<trackbot> ISSUE-149 -- handling of long vibration list - truncate or no
vibration at all -- open

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/149][22]

ISSUE-150?

<trackbot> ISSUE-150 -- Should vibration be additive when multiple instances,
e.g. iframes -- open

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/150][23]

fjh: I believe these remain open for discussion on list

### Network Service Discovery

fjh: WD has been published

... now that we have publication I will follow up with Web & TV IG review,
[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2013Aug/0063.html][24]

<gmandyam> Has a call-for-exclusions on NSD gone out?

dom: goes out for FPWD, LC not updates to WD

<gmandyam> Got it -thanks

ISSUE-130?

<trackbot> ISSUE-130 -- Enable variety of protocols (e.g. UPnP, Bonour) with
protocol independent developer code -- open

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/130][25]

ISSUE-131?

<trackbot> ISSUE-131 -- Support UPnP device discovery by Device Type? -- open

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/131][26]

ISSUE-133?

<trackbot> ISSUE-133 -- Fix UPnP events subscription and unsubscription --
open

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/133][27]

ISSUE-134?

<trackbot> ISSUE-134 -- Rename NetworkServices and NetworkService events --
open

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/134][28]

<dom> [Call for Exclusions: Networked Service Discovery and Messaging][29]

ISSUE-147?

<trackbot> ISSUE-147 -- Reference 'Requirements for Home Networking Scenarios'
in Introduction -- open

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/147][30]

ISSUE-148?

<trackbot> ISSUE-148 -- NetworkService.name definition in 8.2.2.4 incoherent
with definition in 7.1 (a human-readable title for the service) -- open

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/148][31]

ISSUE-151?

<trackbot> ISSUE-151 -- USN should not be used as device identifier -- open

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/151][32]

fjh: CORS discussion happening on list

... discussion will continue on list

### Network Information API

fjh: considering shelving, following up with Mounir

anssik: did internal survey, got some feedback, will bring to group

ISSUE-128?

<trackbot> ISSUE-128 -- Need more description on how bandwidth should be
estimated -- open

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/128][33]

### Actions

ACTION-523?

<trackbot> ACTION-523 -- Anssi Kostiainen to Work on test cases for battery,
vibration, and HTML Media Capture -- due 2012-08-31 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/523][34]

ACTION-645?

<trackbot> ACTION-645 -- Frederick Hirsch to Share Network Service Discovery
editors draft with PING -- due 2013-07-31 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/645][35]

ACTION-652?

<trackbot> ACTION-652 -- Anssi Kostiainen to Make proposal on list regarding
multiple vibration api invocations in frames for vibration -- due 2013-09-11
-- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/652][36]

ACTION-654?

<trackbot> ACTION-654 -- Jean-Claude Dufourd to Propose text for network
service discovery to define wildcard api and feature detection -- due
2013-09-11 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/654][37]

ACTION-657?

<trackbot> ACTION-657 -- Anssi Kostiainen to Revise battery tests for
idlharness, find qa person to help -- due 2013-09-11 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/657][38]

ACTION-658?

<trackbot> ACTION-658 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to Review issue-149 get
input on tradeoff of either failing or offering partial result (not all of
request) -- due 2013-09-26 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/658][39]

ACTION-659?

<trackbot> ACTION-659 -- Frederick Hirsch to Review web notifications last
call specification -- due 2013-09-26 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/659][40]

ACTION-660?

<trackbot> ACTION-660 -- Anssi Kostiainen to Determine interest in progressing
network information api or not -- due 2013-09-26 -- OPEN

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/660][41]

<anssik> [https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/306][42]

anssik: html media capture test cases being worked on

... battery, vibration

close ACTION-642

<trackbot> Closed ACTION-642.

close ACTION-655

<trackbot> Closed ACTION-655.

close ACTION-656

<trackbot> Closed ACTION-656.

action-642?

<trackbot> action-642 -- Dominique Hazaël-Massieux to Review proximity and
ambient light test cases -- due 2013-09-26 -- CLOSED

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/642][43]

action-655?

<trackbot> action-655 -- Anssi Kostiainen to Update test for light
:[https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/dap/rev/916dbd5920d8][44] -- due 2013-09-11 -- CLOSED

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/655][45]

action-ACTION-656?

<trackbot> Sorry, but no Tracker is associated with that shortname.

action-656?

<trackbot> action-656 -- Anssi Kostiainen to Update proximity test for
[https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/dap/rev/a6ad49819c41][46] -- due 2013-09-11 -- CLOSED

<trackbot> [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/656][47]

anssik: will send email when tests are completed

### Other Business

none

### Adjourn

## Summary of Action Items

**[NEW]** **ACTION:** fjh to ask on list regarding proximity naming question
[recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2013/09/26-dap-minutes.html#action01][19]]

**[NEW]** **ACTION:** fjh to make publication request for Light and Proximity
[recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2013/09/26-dap-minutes.html#action02][20]]


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   [16]: http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-discovery-api-20130924/

   [17]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-
apis/2013Sep/att-0035/minutes-2013-09-19.html

   [18]: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/dap/raw-file/default/proximity/Overview.html

   [19]: http://www.w3.org/2013/09/26-dap-minutes.html#action01

   [20]: http://www.w3.org/2013/09/26-dap-minutes.html#action02

   [21]: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/146

   [22]: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/149

   [23]: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/150

   [24]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-
apis/2013Aug/0063.html

   [25]: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/130

   [26]: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/131

   [27]: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/133

   [28]: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/134

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   [33]: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/128

   [34]: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/523

   [35]: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/645

   [36]: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/652

   [37]: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/654

   [38]: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/657

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   [42]: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/306

   [43]: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/642

   [44]: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/dap/rev/916dbd5920d8

   [45]: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/655

   [46]: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/dap/rev/a6ad49819c41

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