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Re: Network Information API

From: Marcos Caceres <w3c@marcosc.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2013 12:20:20 +1000
To: Josh Soref <jsoref@blackberry.com>
Cc: Kostiainen, Anssi <anssi.kostiainen@intel.com>, "<public-device-apis@w3.org>" <public-device-apis@w3.org>
Message-ID: <B54910FB289F420681F843E53986DB12@marcosc.com>
The info below is now available at:  
https://github.com/w3c-webmob/netinfo/

It contains the images in line, plus additional clarifications of how things work - particularly with relation to the audible app on iOS.  

It would be great if people could help add *real* examples from Android, Windows, BlackBerry (that means you, Josh! ;) ) etc.  

PRs welcome!  



On Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Marcos Caceres wrote:

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> On Saturday, December 7, 2013, Josh Soref wrote:
> > Fwiw, I¹m considering a network information api which is based on network
> > interfaces.
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> > interface NetworkAdapter {
> > string uuid;
> > bool connected;
> > string[] localaddresses;
> > string[] gateways;
> > /* possibly exposing dns server information */
> > }
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> > With a notice going out for each up/down of each interface.
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> > When I take my phone and it switches from only having cellular to having
> > cellular + wifi, I¹d get a notification for the new adapter, that
> > notification is a hint that routing may have changed and performance
> > characteristics may be different.
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> And then what will you do with this information (change some HTML? Show something to the user?)? Like you say, the characteristic *may* be different, so how do you stop yourself making a bad decision?  
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> > For BlackBerry devices, there is a third network which can easily go
> > up/down which is the Work network (it¹s roughly a VPN), and then there¹s
> > also a normal VPN connection available ‹ each would notify (but only if
> > they¹re available to the given application ‹ the Work network may or may
> > not be exposed to non Work applications at the user/admin¹s discretion).
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> > I haven¹t started prototyping this, but I believe that in theory this
> > covers all the actual use cases I can imagine.
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> Which are?  
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> > When routing changes, it¹s quite likely that performance characteristics
> > will change.
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> And so you do X to your application to achieve Y. What's X and Y? And are there actual *real examples* of people relying on that?  
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> Here are concrete ones I have seen: on bbc.co.uk/news/ (http://bbc.co.uk/news/) when you try watch a video on cellular it warns you that it might cost you money if you proceed. I don't know how they did that, but we can ask them. Image attached.  
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> The Audible app on iOS won't let you download books over XXmb unless you are connected to wifi. However, it provides an override in its setting. Images attached.
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> IOS can tell a user that an update is available, but does not allow d/l the unless they are on WIFI. The AppStore also does not allow users to download apps over 100Mbs unless they are on WIFI. Image attached.  
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> IOSs AppStore stops you d/l apps over 100Mb over cellular. It will queue them for d/l for when you next connect to WIFI. If you go from WIFI to cellular in the middle of a d/l, it stops the d/l. Image attached.  
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> In a separate incident, I did once explicitly allow Audible to d/l a 100mb Audio book because I really wanted to continue listening to a book that had only partially d/lded. Image of override option attached.  
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> Hope that's enough to start building an actual use cases doc from. You can also reach out to the WebMobIG for help.  
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