# Device APIs Working Group Teleconference ## 16 May 2012 [Agenda][3] See also: [IRC log][4] ## Attendees Present Anssi_Kostiainen, Claes_Nilsson, Deepanshu_Gautam, Frederick_Hirsch, Glenn_Adams_(glenn), Josh_Soref, Jungkee_Song, MilanPatel, Milan_Patel, Rich_Tibbett Regrets Dzung_Tran, Niklas_Widell, Marcos_Caceres, Bryan_Sullivan, Robin_Berjon Chair Frederick_Hirsch Scribe fjh ## Contents * [Topics][5] 1. [Announcements][6] 2. [Minutes approval][7] 3. [Proximity][8] 4. [HTML Media Capture][9] 5. [Contacts][10] 6. [Other APIs][11] 7. [Other Business][12] * [Summary of Action Items][13] * * * Date: 16 May 2012 ### Announcements fyi, WebIntents - Josh posted minutes from WebApps meeting that has interesting WebIntents content, [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public- web-intents/2012May/0034.html][14] Gallery Draft, reminder and request for comment, [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012May/0069.html][15] [http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/REC-mediaont-10-20120209/#core-property- lists][16] jungkee: defining metadata and looking for comments on this fjh: Milan has joined the group from Huawai F2F scheduled for 10-12 July, in Burlington MA, US ### Minutes approval Approve minutes from 9 May [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012May/att-0064/minutes-2012-05-09.html][17] **RESOLUTION: Minutes from 9 May 2012 are approved** ### Proximity Use cases, issues summary (wiki material?); [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012May/0146.html][18] device/user proposal [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012May/0186.html][19] draft [http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/dap/raw-file/tip/proximity/Overview.html][20] readonly attribute DOMString proximitystate; use cases for the proximitystate attribute: [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012May/0201.html][21] anssiK; updated draft to reflect discussion on list, added proximitystate attribute with near/far to the draft fjh: seems to be agreement on list to have near/far, not so clear about min/max. Are we reaching an agreement? direct link to the UCs: [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public- device-apis/2012May/0103.html][22] anssiK: we have use cases for min/far to determine position at startup without waiting for event... ... are we designing around use cases, or already implemented features fjh: looks like this draft will be stable based on use cases, seeking review. anssi: the question is whether we're driven by use cases or not Josh_Soref: as a former Mozilla developer, code reuse isn't a big deal ### HTML Media Capture ... it's pretty easy to expose different properties and share backend code Draft (with revisions) [http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/camera/][23] [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012May/0182.html][24] (Anssi) anssiK: seeking feedback on the draft, have received feedback on the WebKit mailing list ... also feedback from Mozilla and Android developers ... have lots of implementer feedback, updated draft ... removed material that is not implemented by anyone ... eg mediafile, media data ... interfaces ... rewrote spec to reuse HTML5 terminology etc ... now simpler, looking for implementer feedback and review ... would like CfC to publish new working draft **ACTION:** fjh to create CfC to publish update WD of HTML Media Capture [recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2012/05/16-dap- nearutes.html#action01][25]] Created ACTION-538 - Create CfC to publish update WD of HTML Media Capture [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2012-05-23]. anssi: please review and continue discussion on mailing list ### Contacts Time to consider split of Data formats from Search processing? richt: Opera does not have an implementation of this, we should probably be checking with Mozilla who are implementing ... check with them on next steps [Mozilla's Contacts API][26] richt: would prefer to not discuss formats at this time, as it can be devisive fjh: sounds like we should continue to defer this for now ### Other APIs None to discuss today ### Other Business [ None ] ## Summary of Action Items **[NEW]** **ACTION:** fjh to create CfC to publish update WD of HTML Media Capture [recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2012/05/16-dap- nearutes.html#action01][25]] [End of minutes] * * * Minutes formatted by David Booth's [scribe.perl][27] version 1.135 ([CVS log][28]) $Date: 2009-03-02 03:52:20 $ [1]: http://www.w3.org/Icons/w3c_home [2]: http://www.w3.org/ [3]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012May/0195.html [4]: http://www.w3.org/2012/05/16-dap-irc [5]: #agenda [6]: #item01 [7]: #item02 [8]: #item03 [9]: #item04 [10]: #item05 [11]: #item06 [12]: #item07 [13]: #ActionSummary [14]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web- intents/2012May/0034.html [15]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012May/0069.html [16]: http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/REC-mediaont-10-20120209/#core-property- lists [17]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012May/att-0064/minutes-2012-05-09.html [18]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012May/0146.html [19]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012May/0186.html [20]: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/dap/raw-file/tip/proximity/Overview.html [21]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012May/0201.html [22]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012May/0103.html [23]: http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/camera/ [24]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012May/0182.html [25]: http://www.w3.org/2012/05/16-dap-nearutes.html#action01 [26]: https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/ContactsAPI [27]: http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [28]: http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/