[![W3C][1]][2] # Device APIs Working Group Teleconference ## 14 Mar 2012 [Agenda][3] See also: [IRC log][4] ## Attendees Present Bryan_Sullivan, Cathy, Diana_Cheng, Dzung_Tran, Frederick_Hirsch, Josh_Soref, Rich_Tibbett, Robin_Berjon, SungOk_You, dom, glenn_(irc_only) Regrets Claes_Nilsson, Travis_Leithead, Sylvain_lalande, Anssi_Kostiainen Chair Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch Scribe Josh_Soref ## Contents * [Topics][5] 1. [Agenda][6] 2. [Minutes Approval][7] 3. [F2F][8] 4. [Huawei Tour][9] 5. [Sensor API and DeviceOrientation][10] 6. [Network API update][11] 7. [Battery, Vibration CR][12] 8. [Network Service Discovery][13] 9. [Other API discussion][14] * [Summary of Action Items][15] * * * Date: 14 March 2012 Scribe: Josh_Soref ### Agenda fjh: we have a bunch of new members ... I sent welcome messages ... we got one reply on list, and some off list ... we'll have some introductions at the F2F ... if anyone won't be at the F2F and wants to introduce themselves now, they can ... my apologies, for the delay in welcomes to some volunteers for FileAPI review? (Last Call , [http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/FileAPI/][16] ) fjh: If there's anyone who can review the file api ... that would be helpful to webapps darobin: I'd expect implementers to want to review this ... if they haven't already Josh_Soref, you wanted to note that I'm going to try to review this week... fjh: darobin: why don't you send a message to the list? Josh_Soref: I'll try to review it this week ### Minutes Approval Approve minutes from 7 March 2012 [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012Mar/att-0039/minutes-2012-03-07.html][17] **RESOLUTION: Approve minutes from 7 March 2012** ### F2F fjh: The host sent out a plea for people to confirm their status ** Registration necessary so hosts can prepare, even if from China ** : [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Mar/0064.html][18] fjh: they sent out a spreadsheet to attendees Updated draft agenda: [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/wiki/F2F_Agenda_20-22_ March_2012][19],_Shenzhen,_China fjh: if you didn't get it or your items are wrong, please get them corrected NFC wiki, [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/wiki/Near_field_communications_(NFC)][20] - thanks dsr ACTION-505? ACTION-505 -- Robin Berjon to check on attendees for Web Intents -- due 2012-02-22 -- OPEN [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/505][21] fjh: darobin, I don't know what to do with that action ... did you get a chance to talk to them? ACTION-505? ACTION-505 -- Robin Berjon to check on attendees for Web Intents -- due 2012-02-22 -- OPEN [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/505][21] darobin: I believe I did that a couple of weeks ago ACTION-505 closed ACTION-505 Check on attendees for Web Intents closed darobin: I don't believe I heard anything back ... maybe there was a problem? fjh: I think we have enough people registered ... it sounds like there were some surprises re: Video links darobin: we won't have a video link ... we will have a phone link Daylight savings time inconsistency during F2F - [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Feb/0077.html][22] darobin: as far as I understand, the WebIntents people who want to attend are in the spreadsheet fjh: If you're planning to call in, please be aware of Daylight Saving Time confusion for the week darobin: one good thing is that China only has one time zone fjh: hopefully everyone who is going has their visas in place ### Huawei Tour darobin: for the last day, the hosts were planning to organize a visit to the Huawei facilities around 4pm ... from what I've been told, it's really huge and quite interesting fjh: I think they need an idea of how much interest there is Josh_Soref, you wanted to note that I'm interested Josh_Soref: I'm interested in it ### Sensor API and DeviceOrientation [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012Mar/0043.html][23] (Dzung Tran) [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012Mar/0053.html][24] fjh: there's been a lot of discussion on the list ... I think it's still ongoing ... I'm behind on my reading ... if someone is current and can summarize dtran: I checked in edits for the latest round of comments on the spec ... there's some concerns about DeviceOrientation relating to the GeoLocation WG API ... so either we feed that information back to the GeoLocation WG ... or we leave it in our API ... I think there's some comment on getting the requirement to the GeoLocation WG fjh: you did the edits of all the agreeable stuff ... you removed the duplicated bits ... and the list has requirements which could/should be shared to the GeoLocation WG ... but that hasn't been done yet dtran: right fjh: who has an action to do that? dtran: either bryan or myself fjh: there must have been an action note - check who has action to contact geolocation, bryan or dzung tran fjh: I'll make a note to look into that ### Network API update fjh: that was something we didn't talk about last time WebKit, [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012Feb/0064.html][25] (Gyuyoung Kim) [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012Feb/0076.html][26] (Mounir) Actions: ACTION-411?, ACTION-474?, ACTION-476? fjh: I don't think we had the right people on the call ... for those not on that call ACTION-411? ACTION-411 -- Robin Berjon to reply to Jo about NetInfo -- due 2011-06-15 -- OPEN [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/411][27] fjh: there's stuff going into webkit ACTION-474? ACTION-474 -- Adrian Bateman to make a proposal for Network Information API -- due 2011-11-11 -- OPEN [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/474][28] close ACTION-411 ACTION-411 Reply to Jo about NetInfo closed fjh: darobin: some of these actions are ancient ACTION-476? ACTION-476 -- Robin Berjon to aCTION sicking to propose a new Network Info -- due 2011-11-11 -- OPEN [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/476][29] fjh: I closed out some of them ... darobin : you had two here that I think can be closed close ACTION-476 ACTION-476 ACTION sicking to propose a new Network Info closed darobin: right, ACTION-411 can be closed ... it's overtaken by events fjh: there's one to Adrian darobin: I think we should leave that open ... when we gave him the action, he had specific feedback from developers on microsoft's platform ... I think the action on adrian was really on travis, who wasn't targetable Josh_Soref, you wanted to ask if my action was closed? Josh_Soref: fjh, don't forget to close my action ACTION-475 closed ACTION-475 Propose a new Network Info closed ### Battery, Vibration CR All LC issues formally closed. [https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/43696/WD-battery- status-20111129/doc/][30] [https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/43696/WD- vibration-20120202/doc/][31] darobin: I'll look into scheduling the transition call for CR ### Network Service Discovery fjh: there was an email about advertising [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012Mar/0052.html][32] fjh: I don't think we have people on the call with dsr who can talk about that ### Other API discussion fjh: richt, I don't know what you've been doing richt: we have some stuff but it isn't formally submitted ... we've been hijacking the mailing list ... I'd like to have other browsers on board before proposing it fjh: so we'll just let the discussion go richt: I think so ... it's a hacking mentality right now ... and we'll see if we get interest from other vendors fjh: did you have anything else to discuss? darobin: no [ Adjourned ] trackbot, end meeting ## Summary of Action Items [End of minutes] * * * Minutes formatted by David Booth's [scribe.perl][33] version 1.135 ([CVS log][34]) $Date: 2009-03-02 03:52:20 $ [1]: http://www.w3.org/Icons/w3c_home [2]: http://www.w3.org/ [3]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012Mar/0081.html [4]: http://www.w3.org/2012/03/14-dap-irc [5]: #agenda [6]: #item01 [7]: #item02 [8]: #item03 [9]: #item04 [10]: #item05 [11]: #item06 [12]: #item07 [13]: #item08 [14]: #item09 [15]: #ActionSummary [16]: http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/FileAPI/ [17]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012Mar/att-0039/minutes-2012-03-07.html [18]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012Mar/0064.html [19]: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/wiki/F2F_Agenda_20-22_March_2012 [20]: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/wiki/Near_field_communications_(NFC) [21]: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/505 [22]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012Feb/0077.html [23]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012Mar/0043.html [24]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012Mar/0053.html [25]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012Feb/0064.html [26]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012Feb/0076.html [27]: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/411 [28]: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/474 [29]: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/476 [30]: https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/43696/WD-battery- status-20111129/doc/ [31]: https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/43696/WD- vibration-20120202/doc/ [32]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2012Mar/0052.html [33]: http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [34]: http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/