# Device APIs and Policy Working Group Teleconference

## 25 May 2011

[Agenda][3]

See also: [IRC log][4]

## Attendees

Present

    Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch, Anssi_Kostiainen, sungok_You,
Kangchan_Lee, Dominique_Hazael-Massieux, Rich_Tibbett, Dong-Young_Lee,
Wonsuk_Lee, bryan_sullivan, Laszlo_Gombos

Regrets

    Suresh_Chitturi, John_Morris, Claes_Nilsson, Niklas_Widell

Chair

    Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch

Scribe

    Rich

## Contents

  * [Topics][5]

    1. [F2F][6]

    2. [Administrative][7]

    3. [Minutes approval][8]

    4. [Charter][9]

    5. [Contacts][10]

    6. [WebIDL changes][11]

    7. [Other APIs][12]

    8. [testing][13]

  * [Summary of Action Items][14]

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<trackbot> Date: 25 May 2011

<fjh> trackbot, start telecon

<trackbot> Meeting: Device APIs and Policy Working Group Teleconference

<trackbot> Date: 25 May 2011

<SungOk_You> zkim, P13 is me.

<Cathy> Prseent+ Cathy_Chan

<darobin> Scribe: Rich

<darobin> ScribeNick: richt

### F2F

### Administrative

<fjh_> 19-21 July F2F logistics, [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-
device-apis/2011Apr/0000.html][15]

<fjh_> Please register - [http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43696/paris-2011/][16]

fjh: please register for the F2F

<dom> (we have 13 responses, but only 6 positive responses)

<fjh_> TAG minimization draft, [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-
device-apis/2011May/0004.html][17]

### Minutes approval

<fjh_> [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-
apis/2011May/att-0010/minutes-2011-05-18.html][18]

<fjh_> proposed RESOLUTION: Minutes from 18 May 2011 are approved

**RESOLUTION: Minutes from 18 May 2011 are approved**

### Charter

<fjh_> still under review, please solicit feedback and wg members

<fjh_> [http://www.w3.org/2010/11/DeviceAPICharter.html][19]

<fjh_> Under AC Review, see [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-
device-apis/2011May/0005.html][20] (Dom)

<fjh_> "W3C invites public comments through 2011-06-09 on the proposed
charter. Please send comments to mailto:public-new-
work@w3.org?Subject=Re%3A%20Agenda%20-%20Distributed%20Meeting%202011-05-25
&In-Reply-To=%253CC86259FE-89A9-444F-807E-
070311030D27%40nokia.com%253E&References=%253CC86259FE-89A9-444F-807E-
070311030D27%40nokia.com%253E, which has a public archive:

<fjh_> [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/][21] "

### Contacts

<fjh_> CfC until 8 June, please review draft
[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011May/0011.html][22]

darobin: In the middle of CfC. Keep the feedback coming.

<fjh_> additional parameters: [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-
device-apis/2011May/0023.html][23]

<fjh_> bug fixes: [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-
apis/2011May/0024.html][24] (Cathy)

<fjh_> phoneNumbers MUST for URIs : [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public
/public-device-apis/2011May/0026.html][25] (Dom)

<fjh_> Editorial action?

darobin: anything specific on the feedback to discuss?

<dom> (richt already did most of the edits)

<Cathy> richt's latest edits addressed my comments

<darobin> rich: displayName vs name.formatted

<darobin> ... Geolocation's address format doesn't match ours, which is weird

darobin: re: Geolocation Address. We should talk to the WG.

<darobin> **ACTION:** Robin to email Geolocation about alignment of address
objects [recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2011/05/25-dap-
minutes.html#action01][26]]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-399 - Email Geolocation about alignment of address
objects [on Robin Berjon - due 2011-06-01].

<darobin> rich: I'd like a proposal for this

<darobin> ... we have the status quo, and I can make changes based on a
proposal

dom: if we need both fields for compatibility to e.g. vCard then we should
keep them. if not, then one field should go.

<dom> (PoCo has both displayName and name.Formatted ; so we should keep both)

<dom> [http://portablecontacts.net/draft-spec.html#name_element][27]

<dom> formatted: "The full name, including all middle names, titles, and
suffixes as appropriate, formatted for display"

<dom> displayName: "The name of this Contact, suitable for display to end-
users. The value provided SHOULD be the primary textual label by which this
Contact is normally displayed by the Service Provider when presenting it to
end-users. "

darobin: any other contact issues we need to discuss?

dom, I can include that text in to the spec.

<darobin> Robin: so we keep them, and make sure to reflect the initial
meanings

### WebIDL changes

darobin: we have a few specs that are impacted by this change to nullability.

... we should go through the specs to make sure the WebIDL makes sense.

<fjh___> Dom added webidl item to checklist

### Other APIs

darobin: sent some feedback to the battery and messaging APIs

anssi: thanks for the feedback. will start to include the feedback shortly.

darobin: if you're going to make the changes then we're going to be able to
republish fairly soon

anssi: I'll try to incorporate the feedback asap.

... feedback from developers has been positive on this to date.

darobin: On the Network Information API, I've committed some changes. Will ask
for feedback soon.

... On Calendar API, nothing new since last week

<Zakim> dom, you wanted to discuss Media Capture API

<dom> **ACTION:** Dom to integrate robin's feedback on messaging [recorded in
[http://www.w3.org/2011/05/25-dap-minutes.html#action02][28]]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-400 - Integrate robin's feedback on messaging [on
Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2011-06-01].

dom: we also have the Media Capture API that has not been updated in a long
time.

... how does it relate to the new WebRTC WG?

darobin: specifically if it relates to getUserMedia then we should pass it
over to WebRTC

dom: let's discuss this with WebRTC tomorrow on the call.

... Feature Permissions, not sure what the standing of the draft is.

<darobin> [http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/perms/FeaturePermissions.html][29]

laszlo: took ownership of the spec. not really ready for any sort of
publication right now.

dom: let's announce it to the public mailing list.

laszlo: I'll send an email to the mailing list that this spec has been
transferred to DAP

<dom> **ACTION:** Dom to suggest redirecting previous copy of features
permissions to new one to Web Notif WG [recorded in
[http://www.w3.org/2011/05/25-dap-minutes.html#action03][30]]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-401 - Suggest redirecting previous copy of features
permissions to new one to Web Notif WG [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due
2011-06-01].

### testing

darobin: Dom has started some excellent work on testing around the Contacts
API.

<fjh_> [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-
apis/2011May/0028.html][31]

dom: as part of this work we created a Mercurial repo for the tests.

<fjh_> [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-
apis/2011May/0037.html][32]

dom: so far, developed 8 tests. Updated to match the latest edits.

... don't need a separate account to access Mercurial for group members. HTTP-
based.

darobin: perhaps we should start moving everything over to Mercurial

... might make sense to see if it

<bryan_sullivan> +1

darobin: ...is easier to use Mercurial than CVS

<dom> (yes, redirect isn't a problem)

darobin: that's it for now. meeting adjourned.

## Summary of Action Items

**[NEW]** **ACTION:** Dom to integrate robin's feedback on messaging [recorded
in [http://www.w3.org/2011/05/25-dap-minutes.html#action02][28]]

**[NEW]** **ACTION:** Dom to suggest redirecting previous copy of features
permissions to new one to Web Notif WG [recorded in
[http://www.w3.org/2011/05/25-dap-minutes.html#action03][30]]

**[NEW]** **ACTION:** Robin to email Geolocation about alignment of address
objects [recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2011/05/25-dap-
minutes.html#action01][26]]


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