# Device APIs and Policy Working Group Teleconference ## 22 Sep 2010 [Agenda][3] See also: [IRC log][4] ## Attendees Present Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch, Claes_Nilsson, Ilkka_Oksanen, Anssi_Kostiainen, Dong-Young_Lee, Maria_Oteo, Dominique_Hazael-Massieux, Dzung_Tran, Mohammed_Dadas, Richard_Tibbett, Suresh_Chitturi Regrets John_Morris, Thomas_Roessler Chair Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch Scribe Maria_Oteo ## Contents * [Topics][5] 1. [Administrative][6] 2. [Announcements][7] 3. [Minutes Approval][8] 4. [Device Permissions][9] 5. [Privacy][10] 6. [Contacts][11] 7. [Capture][12] 8. [Calendar][13] 9. [SysInfo][14] 10. [AOB][15] * [Summary of Action Items][16] * * * Date: 22 September 2010 ### Administrative Scribe: Maria_Oteo ScribeNick: maoteo next F2F WG questionnaire and TPAC registration and information WG questionnaire (for all), [http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43696/tpac2010dap/][17] TPAC registration (for in-person attendees) [http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2010reg/][18] ### Announcements No further announcements ### Minutes Approval Approve 15 September minutes [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2010Sep/att-0079/minutes-2010-09-15.html][19] proposed RESOLUTION: Minutes from 15 Sept 2010 approved (there are quite a few people that have said they would attend TPAC in the DAP questionnaire but haven't registered in the official TPAC registration) **RESOLUTION: Minutes from 15 Sept 2010 approved** ### Device Permissions Draft revised, [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2010Sep/0096.html][20] fjh: what are the next steps? need to relate to widget features dom: need to clarify the relationship with the widget specs ... close to a FPWD ... we should go for a call for consensus unless anybody has specific concerns fjh: suggest going for the call for consensus ... 1 or 2 week CfC? dom: 1 week is what we use to do shortname api-perms PROPOSED RESOLUTION: Send Call for Consensus for the Device Permissions FPWD **RESOLUTION: Send Call for Consensus (1 week) for the Device Permissions FPWD having shortname api-perms** suggest adding, with shortname api-perms **ACTION:** fjh to send CfC for Device Permissions [recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2010/09/22-dap-minutes.html#action01][21]] Created ACTION-272 - Send CfC for Device Permissions [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2010-09-29]. ### Privacy ACTION-210? ACTION-210 -- Alissa Cooper to summarize and add issues to ruleset doc -- due 2010-07-21 -- OPEN [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/210][22] **ACTION:** fjh to contact Alissa offline re ACTION-210 [recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2010/09/22-dap-minutes.html#action02][23]] Created ACTION-273 - Contact Alissa offline re ACTION-210 [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2010-09-29]. ### Contacts [http://www.w3.org/mid/AANLkTinBThDFTvVpe9-quvZpb2pCOwLkz31mO1o=L=01 @mail.gmail.com][24] -> Rich's message richt: We have been working in HTML integration draft "HTML Contact Sharing" -> [http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/contacts/HTML.html][25] richt: the idea is having both HTML access and programmatic access with the same security darobin: what is the biggest advantage of this approach? richt: one left click for the user, very intuitive ... single click for accessing the data darobin: any details about implementation? richt: it is still very early (looks pretty good to me at a glance; the big flag is regarding ) ACTION-223? ACTION-223 -- Robin Berjon to pick up the thread on -- due 2010-07-22 -- OPEN [http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/223][26] [ditto] darobin: PeningOp, not all the specs use PendingOp. When should a spec use PendingOp? richt: Contact is more aligned with Geolocation than with XHR sorry, I've been dropped from the call trying to rejoin RB: I'm a bit confused as to when it's useful and not ilkka: I would like to know too ... especially given dependencies on OS ... it should be easy to build APIs, this might be an issue (asking the HTML WG sounds like a reasonable next step) **ACTION:** Robin to ask HTML WG about task queues [recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2010/09/22-dap-minutes.html#action03][27]] Created ACTION-274 - Ask HTML WG about task queues [on Robin Berjon - due 2010-09-29]. darobin: Depending on the feedback from HTML WG we should take a decision about PendingOp **ACTION:** Rich to review the delta between Contacts API and Mozilla's implementation [http://www.w3.org/mid/1E15AA20-0551-49AB-B07D- 19A0784E0316@mozilla.com][28] [recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2010/09/22-dap- minutes.html#action04][29]] Sorry, couldn't find user - Rich richt: mozilla implementation has changed, it would be interesting to assess the delta between the contacts api and mozilla implementation **ACTION:** Richard to review the delta between Contacts API and Mozilla's implementation [http://www.w3.org/mid/1E15AA20-0551-49AB-B07D- 19A0784E0316@mozilla.com][28] [recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2010/09/22-dap- minutes.html#action05][30]] Created ACTION-275 - Review the delta between Contacts API and Mozilla's implementation [http://www.w3.org/mid/1E15AA20-0551-49AB-B07D- 19A0784E0316@mozilla.com][28] [on Richard Tibbett - due 2010-09-29]. ### Capture darobin: API is ready for publication ... we can go ahead with the publication ilkka: correct, the only open issue is what is the expected behaviour of cancel dom, you wanted to propose updating html-capture at the same time (it should probably be flagged as an issue in the doc itself, if it isn't yet) dom: we may also publish at the same time an update of the other capture document [http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/camera/][31] PROPOSED RESOLUTION: publish both Media Capture API and HTML Media Capture dom: especially because of the dependencies between both documents RESOLUTION: publish both Media Capture API and HTML Media Capture **ACTION:** Robin to handle the Media* drafts publications [recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2010/09/22-dap-minutes.html#action06][32]] Created ACTION-276 - Handle the Media* drafts publications [on Robin Berjon - due 2010-09-29]. ### Calendar darobin: no recent activity on this API ### SysInfo darobin: I have started a review of the API, detected a couple of bugs ... but nothing that we should discuss today (there is a new workshop announced) ### AOB [Other workshop on privacy][33] darobin: there is a privacy workshop confirmed (will take place in Boston) ... who is coordinating? [http://www.w3.org/News/2010#entry-8902][33] fjh: Thomas is one of the workshop organizers ## Summary of Action Items **[NEW]** **ACTION:** fjh to contact Alissa offline re ACTION-210 [recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2010/09/22-dap-minutes.html#action02][23]] **[NEW]** **ACTION:** fjh to send CfC for Device Permissions [recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2010/09/22-dap-minutes.html#action01][21]] **[NEW]** **ACTION:** Rich to review the delta between Contacts API and Mozilla's implementation [http://www.w3.org/mid/1E15AA20-0551-49AB-B07D- 19A0784E0316@mozilla.com][28] [recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2010/09/22-dap- minutes.html#action04][29]] **[NEW]** **ACTION:** Richard to review the delta between Contacts API and Mozilla's implementation [http://www.w3.org/mid/1E15AA20-0551-49AB-B07D- 19A0784E0316@mozilla.com][28] [recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2010/09/22-dap- minutes.html#action05][30]] **[NEW]** **ACTION:** Robin to ask HTML WG about task queues [recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2010/09/22-dap-minutes.html#action03][27]] **[NEW]** **ACTION:** Robin to handle the Media* drafts publications [recorded in [http://www.w3.org/2010/09/22-dap-minutes.html#action06][32]] [End of minutes] * * * Minutes formatted by David Booth's [scribe.perl][34] version 1.135 ([CVS log][35]) $Date: 2009-03-02 03:52:20 $ [1]: http://www.w3.org/Icons/w3c_home [2]: http://www.w3.org/ [3]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2010Sep/0122.html [4]: http://www.w3.org/2010/09/22-dap-irc [5]: #agenda [6]: #item01 [7]: #item02 [8]: #item03 [9]: #item04 [10]: #item05 [11]: #item06 [12]: #item07 [13]: #item08 [14]: #item09 [15]: #item10 [16]: #ActionSummary [17]: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43696/tpac2010dap/ [18]: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2010reg/ [19]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2010Sep/att-0079/minutes-2010-09-15.html [20]: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device- apis/2010Sep/0096.html [21]: http://www.w3.org/2010/09/22-dap-minutes.html#action01 [22]: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/210 [23]: http://www.w3.org/2010/09/22-dap-minutes.html#action02 [24]: http://www.w3.org/mid/AANLkTinBThDFTvVpe9-quvZpb2pCOwLkz31mO1o=L=01@m ail.gmail.com [25]: http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/contacts/HTML.html [26]: http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/223 [27]: http://www.w3.org/2010/09/22-dap-minutes.html#action03 [28]: http://www.w3.org/mid/1E15AA20-0551-49AB-B07D- 19A0784E0316@mozilla.com [29]: http://www.w3.org/2010/09/22-dap-minutes.html#action04 [30]: http://www.w3.org/2010/09/22-dap-minutes.html#action05 [31]: http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/camera/ [32]: http://www.w3.org/2010/09/22-dap-minutes.html#action06 [33]: http://www.w3.org/News/2010#entry-8902 [34]: http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [35]: http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/