- From: Peter F. Patel-Schneider <pfpschneider@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 19:50:41 -0700
- To: "Ralph TQ [Gmail]" <rhodgson@topquadrant.com>, Dean Allemang <dallemang@workingontologist.com>
- CC: RDF Data Shapes Working Group <public-data-shapes-wg@w3.org>
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Just about any word, or near-word, can be the source of negative connotations. The working group does have to be aware of such negative connotations, but avoiding names just because there are some negative connotations is a fools game. The situation would be different if SHACL was a third-rail word in an important language, of course. As shackle is definitely not such a word in Engish, and has unobjectionable senses in English, I don't see any particular reason to change to some other name. peter PS: I like the idea that SHACL has a name that is related to something that has undergone a technological revolution in the last few years. On 05/28/2015 07:33 PM, Ralph TQ [Gmail] wrote: > Dean, > > In the south of the US, in the last 200 or so years, ‘SHACL’ has other > negative connotations. We should consider what the full power of the > SHAPES work will be, beyond “Fifty Shades of Constraints” :-) > > Ralph rhodgson@topquadrant.com <mailto:rhodgson@topquadrant.com> > > > > >> On May 28, 2015, at 10:27 PM, Dean Allemang >> <dallemang@workingontologist.com >> <mailto:dallemang@workingontologist.com>> wrote: >> >> I've been accused by many of having my mind in the gutter, but >> honestly, after a few months of reading emails about this, the sex shop >> connotation never occurred to. A quick informal poll of the people in >> my office yielded the comment that such a complain says more about the >> complainer than the name. >> >> While I like DASH a lot, I think we might let a sleeping dog lie. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Simon Steyskal >> <simon.steyskal@wu.ac.at <mailto:simon.steyskal@wu.ac.at>> wrote: >> >> Hi! >> >> The people I talked to found it quite fitting (+ funny considering the >> various logo possibilities ;)). But ofc, they were mostly non-native >> English speakers. >> >> simon >> >> --- DDipl.-Ing. Simon Steyskal Institute for Information Business, WU >> Vienna >> >> www: http://www.steyskal.info/ twitter: @simonsteys >> >> Am 2015-05-29 03:41, schrieb Holger Knublauch: >> >> Sorry to raise a dead topic, but I am increasingly getting negative >> feedback on the name SHACL from people outside of the WG. I know most >> of us were all excited about the name and were happy to have this >> difficult topic off the radar, but I am afraid it may come back. The >> feedback that I am hearing is that people don't take a technology >> serious that sounds like a sex toy, or that it sounds too dark. It's >> probably also a bit negative to talk only about constraining things, >> when it's really also a schema language to create things. I personally >> would now prefer something like "Data Shapes Language" (DASH), also >> because we then have prefix and technology abbreviation aligned >> (dash:property etc). >> >> Did others hear similar feedback? Would this topic be worth reopening >> or shall we await feedback on the FPWD? I am fully aware we have many >> other topics to worry about right now, so please don't shoot the >> messenger. >> >> Regards, Holger >> >> >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJVZ9QBAAoJECjN6+QThfjzONQH/3R1c0PGzCRg8ak4gl79VqS7 LWw89WiYkJVehtmcjQF8akHktX00EbBsG9/AM1USyAhaGHHOm0Rvm3rWTU64+wcf 2dvC8R0NJjss3RjnHdtxRcQJjtJaDiz3NFxEkLQDhRhyk+Q6+rKtnQFWkkZz3+AL 1MhpZXtzrejasvZ5/xwnQr53IL7MHR2gxENxWSkr/ZG4uAyekIFcnY1osKN0z73o NBWCBai/Hws+WthjvqG3c8djo+s3wrHIXNo93rMQyD9zWnLGiFMy4Ruq6bNB3yGk DMmKLxrAoCYaLQsBXmbR+OxzUCmOdPOVaFPtLLuxc/Kx3rFsm4VPMCnD+eSNso4= =W/fl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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