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Re: June 18 call summary: resolved to publish use-cases-and-requirements

From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 16:32:53 +0200
Cc: W3C CSV on the Web Working Group <public-csv-wg@w3.org>
Message-Id: <AB70D90F-F173-4470-9B5D-ECF7A218AA1A@w3.org>
To: "Tandy, Jeremy" <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk>
Jeremy,

I am happy to help but... not right now. I have just come back home, sorting out my emails, but will not really touch things before Monday. I hope that is fine.

Some comments/answers below.
On 20 Jun 2014, at 11:33 , Tandy, Jeremy <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk> wrote:

> Ivan - request for a little favour please :-)
> 
> There are a small number of references in the [UCR doc][1] that point to W3C specs using anchor elements <a> rather than the "proper" [[{ref}]] method.

Ah, yes. That should be fine. As long as the same specs also appear in the references, ie, that at least at some page you use the [[...]] jargon.

> 
> I'm stumped as to which reference should be used.
> 

Not sure I understand the quesiton.

> There are also some relative (or explicit refs to w3c.github.io/csvw) references to the CSV data model / syntax and metadata vocabulary documents too. Should these also use the [[{ref}]] form?

In those cases relative references are definitely not good, the github.io should be used. I think it would be a good idea to use the [[{ref}]] making it sure that these are the editor's copy, but also refer to the /TR version as a reference (when applicable, that is)


> 
> Finally, we make a few references to RDF, Turtle, JSON and XML. Should these be explicitly linked to the appropriate W3C TRs?

I think it would be better indeed.

> 
> If you feel that it is necessary, please could you amend the HTML and commit the changes to gh-pages branch please?
> 
> Intances:
> 
> [lines 114 & 115] RDF, JSON and XML ... informative references; not currently linked
> """<li>Mapping mechanism to transforming CSV into various Formats (e.g., RDF, JSON, or"""
> """XML)</li>"""
> 
> ... there are a large number of references to RDF, JSON and XML in the remainder of the document; hopefully if we provide the references here at the beginning of the file, this will suffice?

Yes.

> 
> [line 134] tabular data model
> """<a href="../syntax/index.html">Model for Tabular Data and Metadata on the Web</a>:</p>"""
> 
> [line 1916] tabular data model 
> """<a href="http://w3c.github.io/csvw/syntax/#core-model">core tabular data model</a>"""

Use absolute URI, but I think it is better to add a reference to the end. Eventually, when the document is final, it should refer to our own documents in the references, so doing it now looks like a good idea.

> 
> [line 2804] RDF/OWL ... informative reference
> """(from 2012-2013) developed an <a href="http://hxl.humanitarianresponse.info/ns/index.html">RDF/OWL vocabulary</a>"""

That should be fine.

> 
> [line 2944] SKOS ... informative reference
> """<p>Being familiar with <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/skos-reference/">SKOS</a>, our user decides"""
> 

That should be fine. We do not refer to SKOS as a fundamental reference, it is only in the explanation


> [line 3119] Turtle syntax ... informative reference; not currently linked
> """<p>A snippet of the final SKOS concept scheme, expressed in RDF using Turtle syntax, resulting"""
> 

I think having a reference to the formal Turtle syntax is better. But it is borderline. But if you do not go through the [[...]] jargon, at least an <a> element would be good.

> [line 3183] tabular data model
> """<a href="http://w3c.github.io/csvw/syntax/">syntax for tabular data</a>.</p>"""
> 

See above.

> [line 3230] metadata vocabulary
> """the <a href="../metadata/index.html">Metadata Vocabulary for Tabular Data</a>.</p>"""
> 

Again, use absolute URI, but I think it is better to add a reference to the end. Eventually, when the document is final, it should refer to our own documents in the references, so doing it now looks like a good idea.


> [line 3338] tabular data model
> """<a href="http://w3c.github.io/csvw/syntax/#core-model">core tabular data model</a>, yet lacking"""
> 

Same as above.

> [line 3796] Turtle syntax ... informative reference; not currently linked
> """illustrates how a row of tabular data can be mapped to equivalent content expressed in RDF (Turtle).</p>"""
> 

Ah, in line 3796 this seems like a borderline...

> [line 3893] CURIE ... informative reference
> """permitted in URIs (as defined in [[RFC3986]]) or <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/curie/">CURIEs</a>.</p>"""
> 

I think a formal reference would be better.

> [line 4155] tabular data model
> """<a href="http://w3c.github.io/csvw/syntax/index.html">model for tabular data</a>, prior to applying"""
> 
> [line 4164] tabular data model
> """<a href="http://w3c.github.io/csvw/syntax/index.html">model for tabular data</a>.</p>"""
> 

See above.

I hope this helps a little. More on Monday...

Cheers

Ivan

> Thanks, Jeremy
> 
> [1]: http://w3c.github.io/csvw/use-cases-and-requirements/ 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dan Brickley [mailto:danbri@google.com]
>> Sent: 18 June 2014 14:33
>> To: public-csv-wg@w3.org
>> Subject: June 18 call summary: resolved to publish use-cases-and-
>> requirements
>> 
>> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/csvw/wiki/Meeting_Agenda_2014-06-18
>> minutes: http://www.w3.org/2014/06/18-csvw-minutes.html
>> 
>> highlights:
>> 
>> Re http://w3c.github.io/csvw/use-cases-and-requirements/
>> 
>> On the basis of unanimous 'yes' responses by email and in the meeting,
>> * RESOLVED: ok to publish at editor's + staff contact's discretion
>> 
>> We also discussed republishing http://w3c.github.io/csvw/syntax/ (which
>> Jeni will propose on the list) and getting a 1st WD for the Metadata
>> spec. There are a few editorial tasks to address first, again Jeni will
>> propose something to the list.
>> 
>> Next steps: UCR editors, can you wrap up any outstanding tweaks, and
>> liaise with Ivan to get a publication date scheduled? (please copy the
>> list on these details)
>> 
>> chairs,
>> 
>> Dan
> 


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