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Re: Latest (most recent) version of CSSHWOrientationTest.otf and text-orientation-script-001* tests

From: Gérard Talbot <css21testsuite@gtalbot.org>
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2015 01:39:08 -0400
To: Ken Lunde <lunde@adobe.com>
Cc: Koji Ishii <kojiishi@gmail.com>, Elika 'fantasai' Etemad <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>, Public CSS Test suite mailing list <public-css-testsuite@w3.org>
Message-ID: <adb913fce2a1a6b9feaec9388681848f@gtalbot.org>
Le 2015-09-29 19:28, Ken Lunde a écrit :
> Gérard,
> 
> I am not involved in maintaining the material at test.csswg.org, so I
> cannot comment on the version of the fonts that are there, especially
> given that the fonts are open source and can thus be modified.


I understand.


> The latest version of the fonts in the original GitHub project is 
> indeed 1.005.


I have added such version of the font into

http://test.csswg.org/source/css-writing-modes-3/support/adobe-fonts/

and inserted "-v1.005" into its filename ... that is a 
temporary+transitory step until we (people using your valuable font and 
test.csswg.org maintainers) decide if we need to establish some kind of  
protocols to make sure we are using the latest and most recent version 
of that font file. Maybe just checking once in a while and 
replacing/overwriting for updating when needed would be sufficient...?

> I am not sure how to ensure that test.csswg.org stays in sync with the
> GitHub project.
> 
> About why some font consumers think that the fonts are for math or
> other purposes is likely due to the very complete coverage of Unicode,
> in terms of their 'cmap' tables. Complete Unicode code point coverage
> would, of course, tickle the bits that would advertise the fonts as
> supporting math. I consider this to be failed heuristics on the part
> of the font consumer.

I have opened a bug report over at bugzilla.mozilla.org on this:

Bug 1209752 - Recognition, handling of filename.otf
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1209752

> 
> Regards...
> 

Hey Ken! Thanks for your email reply! :)

Gérard

> -- Ken
> 
>> On Sep 29, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Gérard Talbot 
>> <css21testsuite@gtalbot.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Ken,
>> 
>> In this webpage
>> 
>> http://test.csswg.org/source/css-writing-modes-3/support/adobe-fonts/
>> 
>> it is not possible to know for sure if the CSSHWOrientationTest.otf 
>> font file is the most recent version of CSSHWOrientationTest.otf. The 
>> last modified date info does not relate to the version of the OTF font 
>> file. The filesize given of CSSHWOrientationTest.otf at 
>> test.csswg.org/source/css-writing-modes-3/support/adobe-fonts/ is 45.8 
>> Kilo-bytes.
>> 
>> On the other hand, at
>> 
>> https://github.com/adobe-fonts/css-orientation-test/
>> 
>> the latest most recent version of CSSHWOrientationTest.otf is 1.005 
>> and its filesize is 33.2 Kilo-bytes .

!error: it should have been saying 37.2, not 33.2

>> 
>> - - - - - - - -
>> 
>> This brings a possible problem...
>> 
>> http://test.csswg.org/shepherd/search/name/text-orientation-script-001/
>> 
>> All 16 text-orientation-script-001* tests use and resort to
>> 
>> @font-face {
>>    font-family: "orientation";
>>    src: url("support/adobe-fonts/CSSHWOrientationTest.otf");
>> }
>> 
>> which, in all probabilities, do not link to the latest, most recent 
>> version of CSSHWOrientationTest.otf .
>> 
>> There ought to be a way to avoid and to prevent such "inaccuracy"...
>> 
>> The support/adobe-fonts/CSSHWOrientationTest.otf should be using the 
>> most recent version possible of CSSHWOrientationTest.otf . This seems 
>> increasingly important since the text-orientation-script-001* tests 
>> appear to be very difficult, very user-system-resources demanding to 
>> testers (starting with me).
>> 
>> - - - - - - - -
>> 
>> Another question - maybe not an important issue, hard to say - about 
>> CSSHWOrientationTest.otf is why some browsers (eg Firefox 41) 
>> "believe" that CSSHWOrientationTest.otf is an ODF file type that can 
>> be processed by LibreOffice Math? When Elika and I do a left mouse 
>> button click on the link CSSHWOrientationTest.otf in
>> http://test.csswg.org/source/css-writing-modes-3/support/adobe-fonts/
>> this happens.
>> 
>> I have looked inside Firefox's 41 preferences and settings and I can 
>> not figure this out.
>> 
>> This may be a Firefox-only issue... and a Linux-only issue... I do not 
>> know..
>> 
>> When I do a left mouse button click on the link 
>> CSSHWOrientationTest.otf in
>> http://test.csswg.org/source/css-writing-modes-3/support/adobe-fonts/
>> Opera 12.16 "thinks" this is an application/font-snft file type ... 
>> which makes more sense while Chrome just download automatically the 
>> file.
>> 
>> Gérard
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