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Re: CSS3-writing-modes text-orientation testsuite

From: Gérard Talbot <css21testsuite@gtalbot.org>
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 01:22:12 -0500
Message-ID: <9f44592e59ceaa85b00093b0d5172886.squirrel@ed-sh-cp3.entirelydigital.com>
To: "Kazuaki Takemura" <takemura@networksoft.co.jp>
Cc: "Public CSS test suite mailing list" <public-css-testsuite@w3.org>

Le Dim 17 février 2013 11:35, Kazuaki Takemura a écrit :
> Hello.

Hello Kazuaki :)

> You must be very busy because of the increasing number of committers
> from Japan.

I should be and will be in vacation in a few days. I'll notify all the
committers from Japan.

> But, I have submitted the property of text-orientation.
> http://test.csswg.org/shepherd/search/testcase/spec/css3-writing-modes/status/submitted/
> I appreciate it very much if you could review it.
> Reviewing the site(http://http://wiki.csswg.org/test/format),
> I did my best to describe it as accurately as possible, but if you find
> any errors, please let me know.
> This property may be the same one as described in Mr. taka$B!G(Bs mail
> (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-css-testsuite/2013Feb/0039.html),
> but I submitted it anyway (since there are many kinds of properties in
> Japan).
> It was very difficult to explain this property in words with as little
> image as possible.
> It was especially hard to explain rotations and positional relationship.

I understand. It is difficult. One way is to use an image as reference
or use CSS transforms rotate feature as reference.

Example given of rotated text (45 degrees)

This text
for reference:
		horizonal-only:(Includes: Latin, Arabic, Hebrew, Devanagari)
		vertical-only:(Includes: Mongolian, Phags Pa)
		bi-orientational:(Includes: Han, Hangul, Japanese Kana)
should NOT be read by testers. You can leave it as a <!-- comment --> in
the test though.

> I tried to describe it as simply as possible to keep it short.
> But, if you find it is difficult to understand or still too long, please
> do not hesitate to point it out.

I have been working on this.

One way to make the pass/fail conditions sentence short and simple to
understand is to create a test and a reference (image or SVG or
something else) and then simply say:

"Test passes if there are 2 <strong>identical</strong> [shape

where shape descriptor could be rectangle, stripe, bar, line, grid or
even "Text sample", etc.. In this way, you avoid having to describe in
great details the 2 shapes or text.

That way, you can also reuse later the reference in the reftest.

> By the way, I have tried several browsers and found that it works with
> Safari and Chrome, though not perfectly.

Yes. I agree.

> Other browsers do not seem compatible with this property.
> And @font-face relationship is commented out.
> Regards.
> Takemura

Here's what I've been working on:





Another idea would be to use CSS transform rotate feature on <div

    specifies a 2D rotation by the angle specified in the parameter
about the origin of the element, as defined by the
‘transform-origin’ property. For example, ‘rotate(90deg)’ would
cause elements to appear rotated one-quarter of a turn in the
clockwise direction.
coming from
15.1. 2D Transform Functions

as the reference. That way, no image to create.


<meta name="flags" content="font should" />

You can remove the "should" flag from

"should" flag means that the property value or feature is recommended
and not required by the spec. Here, text-orientation values are
required, must be supported.

More later.

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