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Armenian tests for CSS 2.1

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:28:03 +0100
To: <oyvinds@opera.com>, "'fantasai'" <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
Cc: <public-css-testsuite@w3.org>
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These tests were actually largely exploratory in the i18n test suite, and aimed at CSS3.  I'm thinking that they should probably be changed for use with the CSS 2.1 test suite.  Currently CSS 2.1 says next to nothing about Armenian numbering except, in the errata[1], that 'armenian' means uppercase Armenian.

For CSS 2.1 it seems to me that the only thing we can really test is whether using the value 'armenian' produces some Armenian numbering, and that that numbering is uppercase.  

The maximum number is undefined. Note that I recommended [2] that CSS3 only specify up to 9,999 in CSS3 because of difficulties in ascertaining how to handle Armenian numbers after that. On that basis, I think we should discard the test at http://test.csswg.org/suites/css2.1/20100815/html4/list-style-type-armenian-002.htm.

Note also that there is also some ambiguity around the 700s (see [2]), but although IE followed my recommendation on that, we don't have any text in the spec related to it, so we should not test for it.

I therefore suggest that for CSS 2.1 tests we reduce http://test.csswg.org/suites/css2.1/20100815/html4/list-style-type-armenian-001.htm to a maximum number of, say,  100, or less, and discard test 2.  And that test one check for uppercase numbering specifically.

RI

[1] http://www.w3.org/Style/css2-updates/CR-CSS2-20090908-errata.html#t.12.5.1a

[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2009Jan/0488.html

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Richard Ishida
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W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: oyvinds@opera.com [mailto:oyvinds@opera.com]
> Sent: 10 September 2010 12:26
> To: Richard Ishida
> Cc: 'fantasai'; public-css-testsuite@w3.org
> Subject: RE: Tests with difficult/confusing pass condition/wording
> 
> Quoting Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>:
> 
> > Ah, presumably this is because the CSS spec has decided on whether the
> > numbering for 'armenian' should be upper or lower case, and the issue is
> > with the use of 'numbering' in the description.
> 
> There seems to be a tentative resolution to use uppercase (spec not
> edited yet, issue 168).
> 
> > Why not then just say: "Test passes if the two columns are the same." ?
> 
> "except for alignment" (or something)
> 
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